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durgy
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Hey everyone
I was wondering if anyone had a good source on multiplying balls or someone could pm me something I could find useful, that'd be great. Or even a link to a video of someone performing a cool routine. I just got a set and want to learn a little more than the basic routine

Please and thank you
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Durgy;

Tim White has a few videos out, as well as Jeff McBride has a series of videos out on billiard balls. I would highly recomend both of them.

Hope this helps.

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Well I tell you this try to create your own Manipulation Act...
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A good start would be to type "Multiplying Billiard Balls" into the search function. There shouldn't be more than a few hundred references to begin with.
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Lots of billiard ball information out there. Just look on places like "here" or http://www.allmagicguide.com and other magic sites.

My two cents worth.

The Balls

The best and easiest to manipulate, for me, have been those produced by House of Fakini. Spend the money and buy the best. You'll never regret it. There are plenty of others (billiard balls that is) out there, but for me, Fakinis are the best. You can get a set from Stephens Magic. Ask to speak to Mark, tell him you're interested in learning/performing billiard balls and he will be happy to help with the balls and support materials. A great store and a great guy to deal with.

Routines, books and video.

Standard routine in Mark Wilson's Course in Magic. Can probably find his book at your local bookstore or any magic shop.

In the Benson book Roy Benson by Starlight chapter three is The Benson Billiard Ball routine. Great writings about billard balls. Including photos and discussion of Cardini's routine.

In The Magic of Alan Walking there is his wonderful and unique routine. Performed these days by Greg Wilson.

Also look for books on Bill Baird,a true master. And, Neil Foster.

As for video instruction

Tim Wright

and

Jay Leslie


You might also look into videos by Jeff McBride, not certain, but pretty sure he has work on billiard balls.

Videos of performance of routine

Try http://www.youtube.com and type in magician. You might find video there. I am sure there are other magic video sources and the great folks here at The Magic Café can fill you in on that information.

Also check out Brett Daniels website, he might have the billiard ball clip from his performance on Gary Oullet's Magic In Monte Carlo special. It is a very nice routine, IMHO.

And if you are lucky enough to find video of Cardini performing, you wll see the true master of billiard balls. Just my opinion, but I might find a few who agree.


There's a start for ya--



Hope it helps.




Best of Luck,






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Hey guys
thanks for all the input
Maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been. I'm not looking for billiard ball manipulation. I recently got a set of just regular multiplying balls. they look like golf balls and was looking for some info on that. Anyways I did some research myself and I found this video, a simple routine. I figured I'd post it in case anyone has the same question in the future and finds this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hgTj8GCPy3E&a......%20balls
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Pete is absolutely correct on the Buckingham material... but it's not for the faint of heart! Prepare to sweat a bit if you take it on.

For those like the conjurer (and me!)who think Cardini is a joy to watch, you might want to go here-
http://cardini.tv/Movies/

Explore the rest of the site as well- it was put together by Cardini's grandson as a tribute. You can feel the pride in his writing.
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On 2006-06-26 10:12, NickJegor wrote:
Well I tell you this try to create your own Manipulation Act...

Deer Sir, I am new to this site and I am trying to figure out some ideas for my own act also. So I am reading new posts and going back to the older ones. I have to point out your comment seems to be a little short and harsh. You yourself asked for the same type of information earlier in the month. So why would you respond to this post in such a way that you did? I hope that this is not the kind of "help" we newer members can expect? As it is rather discouraging.
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Brian- Please note that NickJegor lists a homeland of Lithuania. The post from him you reference might be less harsh than you think. It could simply be a less-than-perfect grasp of English (an all too common fault even in the U.S.) or bad translation software. Best to give the benefit of the doubt.

Going back through the older posts will be your best education until such a time as you can get into the secured areas.
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On 2006-06-26 14:41, durgy wrote:
Hey guys
thanks for all the input
Maybe I wasn't as clear as I should have been. I'm not looking for billiard ball manipulation. I recently got a set of just regular multiplying balls. they look like golf balls and was looking for some info on that. Anyways I did some research myself and I found this video, a simple routine. I figured I'd post it in case anyone has the same question in the future and finds this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hgTj8GCPy3E&a......%20balls


Multiplying Balls is considered Manipulation Magic! You posted this under the Manipulation section of the Café.

Multiplying Golf Balls and Multiplying Balls are the same thing, just different style balls.

There are a number of books like Routine Manipulation and video by Jeff McBride available on Multiplying Ball manipulation. Nothing I know of that is free on the internet, you usually have to buy a book or video. That keeps magic alive and available in the market place.
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Durgy,

Let me try and steer you away from going to magic videos for ideas on creating your manipulative routine. I know many do it as I used to do it in the past. the problem with doing this is that it is a very inward approach to creative thinking in manipulative magic.

What ends uphappening is that we learn these great moves and then look inward at magic for ideas and inspiration. However, the only thing that often comes of this, is that we create routine and sequences that are not new, unique or different. we often just end up coming up with routines and acts that have already been done before.

Instead, I teach all my students to think outward and away from magic for ideas and to spark creative thoughts for a manipulative routine. IOn this way you force yourself to creating magic inspired not by magic but by the world around you.

You can be inspired by music you hear, TV shows, Movies, Culture, Art and just about anything if you learn to open up your eyes wide enough to see the incredible possibilities. When creating acts in this fashion, you gain a much better chance at originality and a creative process that is much richer and fresh with ideas.

I hope this may be of help to you. If you or anyone would like examplesor for me to go a bit more indepth, I would be happy to. My pleasure.

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Thank you Kyle and everyone else that has responded.
I appreciate the help and will be practicing every free moment I have

I appreciate everyones input
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You are most welcome. Please let us know if we can be of any more assistance to you. I know it would be my pleasure to help you in any way I can.

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