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Oh my Gawd...I've got advance tickets for the special showing of Superman Returns, tonight June 27th 10pm

I'm all giddy with excitment!

I'll let you all now how it is...oh man I can't wait!

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I'm also going to a 10 pm showing tonight. Looking forward to it. Not quite as much as I have to Spidey and Batman recently, but I still think it'll be a good time.

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My wife explianed to me whay I should go tonight, and I am really mad since she was right! I have to wait till thursday. Bummer.
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Can't wait to see this one. I'm on the edge of my seat.
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Oh man...there was so much action!

Very impressive movie indeed, Superman Dies!!!!!

Just joking!

The effects were awesome and you could really connect with Superman...at least I did, as a matter of fact my underwear is now on the outside of my pants, just like when I was a kid. Smile

This one is a keeper!

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I just got back from the special showing tonite and was blown away. I was really happy that this didn't let me down like some other recent movies this summer. Anyone who hasnt seen this yet go see it as soon as you can. You wont be dissapointed.
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I am going today at 1 :30 pm I have been waiting for this movie since the last one ....15 20 years ago?
It is getting great reviews and the trailers look fantastic......lets see.......supes is #1 in the superhero club !
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Yep, great renewal of the old franchise with Christopher Reeve. They kept the John Williams theme, similar opening titles.

Good casting choices, overall just good. A very quick 2 and a half hours. I wouldn't have minded if they'd gone to 3 hours with it.

I really liked Kevin Spacey as Luthor. Quirky and lighthearted at times, pure evil when he needed to be.
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So I assume it turns out Routh can act somewhat?
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Disclaimer: I enjoyed the movie.

Even though the movie was well made, I am displeased with the newest trend/way of making movies in regards to CGI. I am not here to make a comparison of the Christopher Reeve films and the newest in any regard other than special effects.

Since the latest Star Wars films, there have been too many scenes that look like glorified cartoons. And I certainly do not intend to take away from the technical advances in the industry and the capabilities these advances have provided. However, in the case of this movie, most every time Superman is in action (except with the car and globe/planet), he looks plastic. He looks unrealistic. Now compare that to the Reeve films. In my opinion, if someone could fly, I think it would look exactly the way it was portrayed in those films... think in terms of when Superman flies up, catches Lois, then the helicopter, and then flies away after he gives the PSA about the safety of flying. I am not concerned with the how as much as it looks like those events were really happening in real time with real human beings... not techinically sharp graphic cartoons. In Superman Returns, every time Superman was in action, my mind immediately shifted away from what was happening and to thinking about how the scene looked computer generated.

Understand that I am not a technical person about the reality factor. My complaint is about the overusage versus.... stuntmen/actors? Again, I don't know what methods were used in the Reeve films, but it looked more realistic than the newest edition.

(Sidenote: One thing to watch for those who haven't seen the movie yet... When Lois and the kid are on Luthor's boat, watch her hand with the ring when she is holding the kid. Watch the ring jump back and forth from her middle to third finger about 3 or 4 times.)

This is a similar reason (CGI) that I did not like the Hulk movie, it was too much CGI to the degree that I felt I was watching a cartoon. And perhaps, I don't know this, but perhaps the movie is hoping to win the approval of the technical crowd who can really appreciate what is, I'm sure, a very extensive process for making the impossible scenes seem possible.

But it does bring to mind a brilliant article I read by a dear and departed friend about Elvis and his Memphis Mafia. Elvis began to suffer from the, "that's cool Elvis" syndrome. He had achieved such greatness that the people around him began to approve of every idea he had as being cool.... "Hey guys, let's hang shag carpet on the wall and ceiling!" "Yeah... that's cool Elvis."

It might have been some benefit to say, "You know... that's a really stupid idea Elvis."

The same thing is happening to movies. "Hey, I want to create a character that is quirky and completely computer animated and call him JarJar!" "Yeah... that's cool Lucas."

No it isn't.
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On 2006-06-28 13:23, mandrake01 wrote:
So I assume it turns out Routh can act somewhat?


Imagine a soap star working against a green screen in a harness waiting for next SFX shot hoping he hits his marks right...
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This film is new enough for the younger audience to connect with, but connected enough to the S1 and S2 franchise to make those of us 30 and up who remember the Reeve movies as the gold standard, happy. I loved the retaining of the themes, titles, and even some lines from the first movies. It is obvious that Spacey really studied Hackman's mannerisms as well. Though it's not an impression, Spacey is too good for that, it's definitely connected.

I wasn't as disturbed by the CGI as Jim. I am not sure how you

SPOILER ALERT.......





lift an island (pre-continent) into space, or rescue a plane without some special effects.
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On 2006-06-28 14:56, revlovejoy wrote:
I wasn't as disturbed by the CGI as Jim. I am not sure how you

SPOILER ALERT.......


I AM NOT DISTURBED!!! j/k

No, I know what you mean about the special effects in terms of use for the large impossibilities. However, think to Superman 3 where the scene involved Superman freezing the top layer of a pond/lake and flying it over the fire... or where he used his heat vision to take off the top of a mountain and plug up a volcano prior to massive eruption (Superman 4). Those were just as large, and used special effects of the time, but to me, the scenes looked much more realistic and less computer generated. And Superman didn't appear to be wearing a thick layer of base.
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I agree with Jim that some CGI distracts from the realism. I avoided the Hulk for the same reasons. It looked like a cartoon character.

I have Star Wars 1&2 on DVD and was stunned to see the scenes that were CGI. You could not tell the difference between the real Christopher Lee and his acrobatic CGI clone used in the sabre duel scenes. Lee has knee problems and can't do any of those quick turns or jumps and a CGI stand in was used. Now that's CGI done right!

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TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS it cost, they say.

There are still hungry people in this country, not to mention the rest of the world.

[*Sigh...*]
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The Movie was wonderfullllllll....... I belived a man could fly...... some parts were jerkin my tears....
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TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS it cost, they say.

There are still hungry people in this country, not to mention the rest of the world.

[*Sigh...*]


If it makes you happy, I will give up one hamburger today and still go see this movie tonight. Smile


I have been waiting a decade for this thing!

I'm excited!
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On 2006-06-28 16:05, Timothy Drake wrote:

I agree with Jim that some CGI distracts from the realism...


Realism? You mean in a movie about a man who flies (with his underpants on the outside) and another about a big green hulk of a thing!? Smile Smile
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On 2006-06-28 13:23, mandrake01 wrote:
So I assume it turns out Routh can act somewhat?


Imagine a soap star working against a green screen in a harness waiting for next SFX shot hoping he hits his marks right...


I don't know if anyone knows this but Christopher Reeves was a soap actor before doing superman in the early 70's...
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