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Pricholas
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Now, I know what you're gonna say. Stupid guy he's naive and he'll never appreciate the amount of risk involved with fire.

Well, I have watched the video of the girl who inhaled the flame she produced and had to undergo major healthcare. BUT, how dangerous is fire-breathing, really?

You blow lamp-oil onto a flame, keep your distance, watch the wind and you're done nicely right? How dangerous is fire-breathing?
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Honestly?



If you have to ask, and put the technique and form into such simplistic terms then:

You have NO business even considering it....Seriously.

I watched one of my teachers die in a performance, and he'd been performing for decades...

Fire Breathing is NOT something to be taken lightly. It should be taught by a KNOWLEDGABLE performer, who is there with you LIVE!

Honest, trust me, I've been breathing fire for over 10 years....

DO NOT ATTEMPT IT WITHOUT SERIOUS INSTRUSTUCTION!

There are so many details that you will have NO idea to even think about, much less take care of, that WILL mean the difference between a succesfull blow...

OR

(If you are lucky) A LIFE-TIME of disfigurement, unbelievable health issues, and a truely soured life.

And if you aren't lucky?

Death.


You must ask yourself WHY you want to Breath Fire...

Is your LIFE worth this?

I'm sincere about this issue, if you view it as a Rant, then so be it...

I've watched a friend die....

I've had a friend suffer from Bacterial Pneumonia for months...

I'M slightly disfigured from an accident (luckily my beard/mustache covers it)...

This Art is serious sh#t and should be approached as such.

Period.

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A rant? Well, sure it is, but a rant that's needed to be said time and time again. While, I would love to learn how, it's not something I care to risk. (I'll stick to jumping out of airplanes diving down 100' under water with a tank strapped to my back. Hey, maybe I'll do it without a tank someday).

Thanks for the great repsonse.
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Thanks for the support Dave...

Sometimes I read things on forums that makes my head want to explode, but I TRY to keep things civil...

It's not really anyones fault for seeing a great Fire Performer and think to themselves, "Hey, that doesn't look so hard, I think I want to try that..."

It's sad though...Because it IS hard....It's years of DANGEROUS practice and risk taking that has led that performer to make it LOOK easy.

As for the Skydiving, it's on my list of things to learn (The proper way of course, lessons, tandem-jumps, etc.)....As well as Scuba...Just don't have the time...lol.

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<Edited due to my somewhat out of date information - thanks for the help guys!>

To be blunt, fire-breathing is potentially DEADLY.

The story about the lady who aspirated (inhaled) the flames is only ONE incident of several that happen every year. If you are online enough, Google "Great White" "Rhode Island" and "fire." They had a little problem at a concert a few years ago where some pyrotechnics got out of hand and a bunch of people DIED as a result of their pyrotechnician's carelessness coupled with the club's lack of fire safety preparedness.

Now consider - fire BURNS. This is a no-brainer.

The usual fuel for fire-breathing is petrolium based. Think about that for JUST a second... what it would be like to have a stray gust of wind blow back a burning cloud of flaming gasoline into your face and your EYES...!

Are some of the dangers starting to sink in?

I'm not trying to be anything more than realistic here.

Oh, yes, there is ONE more professional problem with fire eating and fire-breathing these days and that's something called a Fire Marshal. These are law enforcement professionals who can and WILL lock down your show if you do not have the proper INSURANCE, SAFETY GEAR and PEOPLE to protect you and your audience and the building you are performing in (or NEAR if you are outdoors!). Fines can run as high as $100,000 and jail time can run up to 10 YEARS, depending on the violation.

Does that sum it up well enough, or do you need the physics? Smile

Respectfully,

Lee Darrow, C.H.
(who does NOT do fire effects any more because of the Fire Marshal-types)
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On 2006-07-04 04:40, Lee Darrow wrote:
The usual fuel for fire-breathing is gasoline.


ummm, not so...back in Slim's hayday that may have been, but gas should never be used...because you WILL die, if not from fire, from cancer.



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Exactly Brett!

Gasoline is NOT the prefered fuel and is extremely stupid to use!

Frankly, it's dangerous to say that it's used in the first place.

It's taken me 10 years to develop my own custom fuel mix that I breath with, and that is 10 years of Dam good luck, perserverance, research, consults with professionals, and an unsightly scar on the corner of my mouth from a blow-back...

Bottom line?

Unless you have PROFESSIONAL supervision and instruction, STAY AWAY from FIRE performance!

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(Bangs head on desk)
I was just about to completely FLAME you for that post until I read the PS...
It is believable because there are people out there just that stupid.
I've met them.
They were trying to get me to tell them my secrets because when they tried what they read on the internet, they wound up either bruning off the hair on their eyebrows or vomiting from the use of the wrong fuel.
Scary stuff...
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Its tempting isn't it?

A bottle of fluid in one hand, and a candle in the other...hmmmmm....



what does gwyd mean?
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My heart dropped when I read that post!!!

lol



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Now I have to clean baloney sandwich off my computer screen...

JEEZ.

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On 2006-07-05 19:32, Pricholas wrote:

what does gwyd mean?

It's my name...Short for Gwydion which is the Welsh Gaelic version of the Norse name Odin. It means wise one, although there is some debate as it can also be translated as illusionist. Not my birth name, but one I have been known by since I was 13.
Gwyd
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I'm a little late on this topic, but thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I dance with fire. My best friend breathes fire, in fact quite a few of my friends do. My stomach is in a knot every time they do it. They were trained properly and know what they're doing. Part of me wants to learn, because it would be a great way to finish my act, but I will freely admit that I'm scared as hell to actually try it. (I like my long hair, eyebrows, unscarred face and lungs a little too much to risk them...at the moment). The main point I wanted to make is that while the fire is dangerous enough, the fuel itself can cause serious damage if inhaled or swallowed, both immediatley and in the long run. I remember when I first wanted to learn, reading horror stories of things gone wrong. One performer (I don't remember his name or too many specifics) landed himself in the hospital, nearly died and had a very long recovery from inhaling the fuel he was using.
I love the look of fire breathing, but I always worry for the performer, whether it's a friend or stranger, because I know how dangerous it can be.
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Well, to put it bluntly, I was one of those stupid ones. I started out breathing fire on my own, without any professional instruction using good old alcohol. I mean it burns and it doesn't evaporate too quickly if you can drink it right? WRONG, I was doing good for a few yearts and one day I picked up the wrong stuff. I was extremely lucky and only burnt hair, but it was enough to awaken me and tell me to stop until I get professional instruction.
I have the breath of dragons and the soul of a human.
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Pricholas,

My heart actually jumped when I read your "April Fools" joke. Uncool, dude!

The warnings are there for a reason, and the horror stories are true. There's no way to get around it - if you play with fire, you're going to get burned.
I've eaten fire for a several years, but there's no way I'd try the Volcano. It's just too dangerous. Granted, many accidents happen to idiots who don't know what they're doing, but just as many happen to professionals. Read doctorrigormorto's account in this thread -
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=14

And let me reiterate, gasolene is NOT the preferred fuel. Nor is "lamp oil" or any type of alcohol, such as Everclear.

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Michael J.
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Just thought I would chip in here as well! Just in case any lurkers are still thinking this ia good idea. I have bee performing with fire for around 5 years, I was taught by a man with over 20 yrs experience and he was very difficult to persuade to teach me. He did eventually give in and I learnt all the details of a safe performance. But only after I had a rather nasty incidinet with a change of wind and an ill timied coucg did I learn to really respect the fire. Very luckily I only had two/three weeks with what I have been informed is Chemical Pneumonia. I don't the real name for it but it sure as hell slowed me down! I now only perform when I am 100% happy with the set up at an event and only then if the price tag is high enough!!! When I first learnt I wanted to breathe fire and eat fire every day but the novelty soon wears off! As all the above has posted (withthe exception of that *** April Fools!) If you really must learn then find an experienced source and get insurance!!!
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