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On 2007-04-25 03:09, egregor wrote:
After seeing Buddhist monks raise their body temperatures to 103 degrees while sitting naked in a cave at 11 degrees below zero in the himilayas, I believe the human body can accomplish things we have not yet discovered without a gimmick or trickery. At one time the sheer idea of a human body being able to run a 26 mile marathon followed by a five mile swim, followed by a 50 mile bike race seemed like science fiction.But triathalons are real.


There is, however, a major difference between raising body temperature and withstanding a flame. Raising body temperature requires the a widening of the capillaries to the skin area to increase the blood flood. While this type of action is usually subconscious, you can learn to control it (usually through a process such as meditation or biofeedback). Likewise, with the proper training, you can raise or lower your heart's beating rate (within certain parameters - you can not lower it to a dangerous level as you will pass out and your body will reassume a normal state).

Holding a hand or finger over a flame, however, is in a different ballpark. There is no known procedure to allow unprotected skin survive the heat of a flame for more than a few seconds. Please do not ever try something this dangerous. I have worked for a fire department (as their administrator) and have seen the effects of fire on the human skin. If they survive, burn victims suffer constant pain for the rest of their lives, numerous operations for skin grafts, suffer from frequent infections, and never fully recover the use of arms, legs, or other body parts.

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(Chin Tao, 777-841, trans. by Alan Watts)
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10 years ago there was a company that sold a product called "Fire check" it was being sold at the ideal home show in london Earls court. The idea was to put it on your furniture and carpets so if a naked flame were to make contact the substence would prevent it from burning. I tried soaking my hands with it and allow in to dry (clear). The result was great, I could hold my hand to a flame longer than anyone down the pub(up to 50 seconds. What was more freaky is your hand would have a black soot appear where the flame made contact. Once the bottle ran out I got some more from the company but the new batch never had the same effect, the resistance was about 1 tenth of the previous bottle. don't think these guys realised the potential of what they had created originally
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There is another brand name called "Flame Barrier" that is designed for use on fabrics. I don't have an MSDS sheet in front of me to say what it does to skin on contact when wet.

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If I may jump into this subject with pure speculation What if rather than having applied something to his hands, he held something palmed in it? i.e, a silver dollar which had rested on a freezer pack on a servante or cushion on his lap. The cold coin would absorb the heat, and take a while to become to hot to hold?
Pure conjecture, and nothing more.
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Again, we are playing with fire.
I asked the boy beneath the pines.
He said, "The master's gone alone herb picking,
somewhere on the mount,
cloud hidden,
whereabouts unknown."
(Chin Tao, 777-841, trans. by Alan Watts)
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Here is an idea what about a pull like the raven with some kinda heat shield instead of the pk part.
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There is also a trick to raising your body temp it envolves eating a secret something, but it seems dangerous.
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Lava?
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I think the original effect described is not a fire resistence 'trick' as such, but an expereiment in suggestion.
As Airship said, 10cm above a candle is actually quite hot. At 12cm you get 'surges' of heat, as parrafin gas billows, but it's quite bareable.

The challenge is to have someone match you.
I've hinted at the method, but I won't disclose it here.
Rest assurred its about 85% succesful, and doesn't use any kind of chemical or shield.
I've been doing this for just under 10 years now, and no-one has ever guessed the 'method' (such as it is) and it remains one of my impromptu pub tricks.
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DR Spektor your close but not the lava your thinking of if you want to know just pm me
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You don't have to eat it. Just put a piece in your armpit.

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I did not know that bill. maybe I will pull a jimi and put some under my head band. LOL
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A follow up a year later, doctorrigormorto there is a fairly well known performer from your neck of the woods (Toronto) that had to have a liver transplant. He was a prolific fire eater and the scuttlebutt is that the fluid was the cause. His initials are G. E. and his wife still performs. It gave a lot of us veterans cause to remove it from our acts.

There was another performer from the States who used to hold a lit cigarette between his thumb and middle finger with the filter on his thumb and the lit part against his middle finger. He did a lecture at Morrissey's Magic in Toronto about 20 years ago. I don't remember his name. He said it was nothing but repetition until the finger didn't feel heat anymore. I wasn't that dedicated and never took up the trick.

All the best,

Rob
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There was another performer from the States who used to hold a lit cigarette between his thumb and middle finger with the filter on his thumb and the lit part against his middle finger. He did a lecture at Morrissey's Magic in Toronto about 20 years ago. I don't remember his name. He said it was nothing but repetition until the finger didn't feel heat anymore. I wasn't that dedicated and never took up the trick.

All the best,

Rob


Rob, there is a rather easy way to perform this that does not require killing pain sensors or damaging yourself in any way. Certain conditions are required, but they are usually not difficult to set up. PM me if you are interested.

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Following on from the above posts, I'd urge anyone to read Sam Dalal's Swami/Mantra series, which are available in a hardbound collection at a great price (from Kaufman).
Actually there's quite a lot of Bizarre & Mentalism in there too which I'm sure would appeal to anybody who browses this forum of the Café.
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Hi Bill,

20 years ago, I would have taken you up on your offer! Smile However now, with the unpopularity of smoking and myself having quit smoking about 5 years ago, I'm going to pass.

I do appreciate the offer though. Very kind of you.

All the best,

Rob
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