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I recently recieved David Mann's Dancing cane. It is the first on I have owned personally. I was wondering, has anyone thought of or really used IT for their cane? Or is it just not strong enough? It would seem more usable in that case. Overall, I love the cane. Its beautiful!

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IT may not be strong enough to withstand the momentum of the cane movement and certain suspension effects.

Yes, you are right - David Mann's dancing cane is beautifully made. Experiment with it and you would be able to come up with good moves you can incorporate into your act.
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You don't need IT if you learn to light it right. And dimming the lights is NOT right... brightest front light, no side or top or back light. Keep it moving and don't let the routine go even a full minute... LESS IS MORE. And learn to do a really cool eccentric bit of dancing... it should be YOU and the DANCING that is th effect and the cane just happens to be coming along.
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I absolutely agree with the premise of less is more. too often we do thge cane too long because we end up performing it for oursleves and not for our audiences. We fall into this trap because we study and rehearse and learn so many moves and we feel we need to do and perform every one of those moves no matter what. We must realize that the mnoves we study are just tools in developing an entertaining routine for the audiences we perform for. Use what we have learned and dvelop a short and concise routine that is fun for the audience and use the moves that best fits what you are trying to accomplish in the routine.

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The routine I have it mind is rather less dancing and more...What the heck is going on. More or less I lose control of the cane (much like a zombie if you need somthing to relate to.) A lot of it incorpoarts MIME and body acting, and a FEW moves using the actual MAGICAL part of it. But it does look very MAGICAL.

The reason I ask about the IT was for future use.(possible use on the street?) TO be able to do it under less constricting circumstances. Maybe Fishing line would stand up to the task?

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You probably just have to go out and TEST various products.
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Here's a really off the wall thought... for street. Have you ever watched NY City cops standing around during parades?

They have these clubs, nightsticks some call them... and they are on leather thongs... the do a lot of the same moves just fooling around, that magicians do with a dancing cane.

So... on the street why worry about the Th***d? Use anything but make the routine fun and antertaining, more like a Juggling routine, not magic.
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I have acctually, really looking into that for my normal routine.

Routines with DANCERS using canes (dancing with a cane), batons (baton twirlers), mime, and such. I try to actually limit the use of the gimmick part. It Blurs the line if you will.

I wanted to do the same sort of routine on the street. (Standing still in a "statue" form, posed with my cane, and come ALIVE and fly it around ever now and then) But the lighting is the issue. I have tried IT, and it doesn't hold up. I am now tring different types of Fishing line. But not quite as invisible as I hoped...

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Sometimes you have to decide if it is the effect you are trying to get across or your worrying about things that don't matter when the whole picture is taken. I have witnessed the dancing cane performed outside and the act was so interesting, I was not looking at how the cane was doing what it was doing, but at the performance of the entertainer.
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Just thought I might jump in and say that some threads for fly fishing work well. Around a 4lb Test seems to work best for me. It does have advantages over other types of thread as it is almost invisible. Certainly not as Invisible as the ITR.

I think that maybe you might think more about the environment that you are performing in and make the cane fit. For example, here in Gatlinburg at Dollywood, the parks magician David Talent performs the effect while a train is pulling up at the train station. It appears for all intents and purposes that it was done in a more fluid atmosphere. Maybe, you just need to plan more on where and when you perform this effect and like the others said make it fit.
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Hey guys,

I will have to try the fly fishing line, Thanks for the suggestiong David. May I ask when you use the line?

As for the environment, The plan was to take the effect to a new level as much as I can for street use. I could easily do it at night and set lighting up. But I really wanted an IN YOUR FACE cane routine. (Me making goals for myself and letting my creativity run) I am experimented with Zombie type gimmicks that ditch INTO the cane and then go into a routine with the normal gimmick. Of course ANGLES, Lighting, and Luck play into.

I hope you guys arn't reading this and shaking your head thinking I am some "noob" magician...but I am just trying to put a "spin on a old classic" if you will and be able to take it into more environments where you don't need to worry as much about lighting.

Bill/Dave: I understand what your saying about the atmosphere and the presentaion of the effect. ALot of effects (including Zombie, which I also perform) require more of less...acting. Which is another passion of mine along with magic. Alone can make a ball, cane, or card float if they have some spare change. But a Magician makes it impossible.

Thanks to everyone for the help thus far.
Wish me luck,

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If you feel that the gimmick is just too much for your environment. Get your self one of Fukai's Canes. If can be done somewhat closeup as it is made of a much lighter materials and uses a different gimmick material.
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I don't think I can switch to any other cane after using yours Dave! Ha!

But I have been fooling around with some ideas...I think you all will be interested to see what I have come up with. I play on making a video of some of it and posting it in the future.
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Seeker why don't you PM me about some Ideas that you might have.
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