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I have a simple question about what your receive for the $19.95. In Magicmania's initial review he described an effect that uses three boxes. Looking on the website it says that you receive a single tin. I don't see an option to purchase additional tins (wihtout the set of instructions), or is this a standard mint tin that you could purchse additional ones at most stores?

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Yes there is a source given for mint tins...I do not suspect that they will be hard to find...if you have access to a WallGreens you are good to go!

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On 2006-07-11 18:40, ekins wrote:
I have a simple question about what your receive for the $19.95. In Magicmania's initial review he described an effect that uses three boxes. Looking on the website it says that you receive a single tin. I don't see an option to purchase additional tins (wihtout the set of instructions), or is this a standard mint tin that you could purchse additional ones at most stores?

-Brian


The creator mentions he will tell you where to buy the tins. I think 7-11 has them.
They are just mint tins.
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In the context of the routine the spectator removing their unsigned card makes perfect sence and plays much stronger then you removing their signed card. I have never had a layman come close to explaining this effect. I have even openly exposed exactly how it works and they still say "But how do you get it in the tin"? Smile

My magic is known for it's simple and direct nature. I like to take an effect "shake it up" until all the loose ends fall off and all that is left is a simple direct effect that hits hard and is accomplished with as little work as possible. ToiBox definately fits into that category.
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If I can pull an unsigned card out of a box at the end of the trick I'm in. This is an effect I have wanted to do for a while and was looking for a suitable method but couldn't find it.
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Why is this this Toibox thing such a big deal?

It looks to me like just another version of many card to box effects which use the same slieghts..ala Kennedy's Mystery Box, Viking's Billet Box, Green's Mission Impossible, etc.

It seems to me like this can be done with any small box using that same principal, with the second production being an unsigned card that was selected after the signed card is removed.

I watched the video and it looks fishy when the box is so quickly closed after the production.

If the spectator could pull out the signed card, it would have been in the video. Heck, you wouldn't need a routine.

This appears to be someone else's version of an old idea. Kennedy's Box or John's Destination Box are far better in my opinion.
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Can you do the allen/kennedy box tricks with an unsigned card? I don't like having cards signed very much so I think toi box will suit me betetr as the card is unsigned.
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On 2006-07-11 22:27, simon hughes wrote:
Can you do the allen/kennedy box tricks with an unsigned card? I don't like having cards signed very much so I think toi box will suit me betetr as the card is unsigned.


Sure, you can do unsigned card to box tricks with any box. Kennedy's box allows the card to be signed and the box shown empty upon removal. Better yet, Allen's allows the spectator to remove the card from a small pillbox that was found inside a locked wooden box in view the whole effect. These are spectacular!
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On 2006-07-11 22:16, tdowell wrote:
Why is this this Toibox thing such a big deal?

It looks to me like just another version of many card to box effects which use the same sleights...ala Kennedy's Mystery Box, Viking's Billet Box, Green's Mission Impossible, etc.

It seems to me like this can be done with any small box using that same principal, with the second production being an unsigned card that was selected after the signed card is removed.

I watched the video and it looks fishy when the box is so quickly closed after the production.

If the spectator could pull out the signed card, it would have been in the video. Heck, you wouldn't need a routine.

This appears to be someone else's version of an old idea. Kennedy's Box or John's Destination Box are far better in my opinion.

Are the spectator going to care that the box is closed to quickly? No, there attention will be on the folded up card.


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On 2006-07-11 22:27, simon hughes wrote:
Can you do the Allen/Kennedy box tricks with an unsigned card? I don't like having cards signed very much so I think toi box will suit me better as the card is unsigned.

Sure, you can do unsigned card to box tricks with any box. Kennedy's box allows the card to be signed and the box shown empty upon removal. Better yet, Allen's allows the spectator to remove the card from a small pillbox that was found inside a locked wooden box in view the whole effect. These are spectacular!

Yes, but this is Much more compact and can be done anywhere and still has a very strong effect to lay audiences.
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This effect offers nothing new. Doug Brewer, Tommy Wonder, Paul Green, the list goes on and on with recent contributors to this age-old card effect. Contributions that actually improve the effect and offer something worth studying.

It was actually kinda embarrassing watching the demo. I'd love to see the creator perform the ******* **** with his hands in the camera frame, lol.


Magicmania,

Do you receive proceeds from sales of the Toi Box?
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Magicmania - I never said Toibox is a bad effect, but it seems to be one of a number of effects today that don't really add anything new to other effects using the same principal. There really isn't anything new here.

As for the spectator, I think it has ten times the impact when they immediately see the empty box with no fishy moves or cover. I've had people grab my Mystery Box right after the revelation and start examining it right away only to find nothing. That's powerful stuff.

It seems to me that repeating the effect with an unsigned card is anticlimactic, but likely necessary to end clean in toibox. Toibox isn't a bad effect or routine, but I think other products/routines are as good if not better.

In my opinion, put the money towards Allen's or Kennedy's box. Money well spent on professional props that make it look impossible.
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I watched the demo at first the handling looked great then I went back and looked at it again, Charlie c is correct the hands went out of frame,The demo that is shown is an old concept as already stated, if the tin was empty and then the signed card pulled out this would be a killer effect but it does not do this.
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With the "Anything Wallet", you can show a small empty wallet, leave it on the table, have a card appear inside of it and then remove the signed card, showing the wallet to be empty afterwards. And it fits in your breast pocket.
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On 2006-07-11 23:22, CharlieC wrote:
Magicmania,

Do you receive proceeds from sales of the Toi Box?

LOL. No I don't. I'm just trying to help with Jonathan's sales as much as possible.


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On 2006-07-11 23:44, tdowell wrote:
Magicmania - I never said Toibox is a bad effect, but it seems to be one of a number of effects today that don't really add anything new to other effects using the same principal. There really isn't anything new here.

As for the spectator, I think it has ten times the impact when they immediately see the empty box with no fishy moves or cover. I've had people grab my Mystery Box right after the revelation and start examining it right away only to find nothing. That's powerful stuff.

It seems to me that repeating the effect with an unsigned card is anticlimactic, but likely necessary to end clean in toibox. Toibox isn't a bad effect or routine, but I think other products/routines are as good if not better.

In my opinion, put the money towards Allen's or Kennedy's box. Money well spent on professional props that make it look impossible.

I wasn't implying to you that I thought you were implying it was a bad effect. I don't have Kennedy's box or any other box because I do not wish to spend some outrageous price for it. This came along and I said to myself, This is a deal! So I bought it.


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On 2006-07-11 23:57, cfrancis wrote:
With the "Anything Wallet", you can show a small empty wallet, leave it on the table, have a card appear inside of it and then remove the signed card, showing the wallet to be empty afterwards. And it fits in your breast pocket.

Can you supply a link?
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The creator himself has never seen Tommy Wonder's card to box.
I seriously think if anyone sees Tommy's version, they will not want any other.

Tommy Wonder's Visions of Wonder Vol 3 $32

VOLUME 3 (146 minutes)
NEST OF BOXES - Tommy discusses in tremendous detail three unbelievable versions of the Borrowed Watch to Nest of Boxes. You will shake your head in disbelief and be absolutely dumbfounded.

COINS ACROSS - A combination of the Coins Across plot, a coin box routine, and a wonderful Coin in Eye routine to close. This gets the same strong reaction of the Card On Forehead but with coins. Practical and incredibly strong.

AMBITIOUS CARD PLUS RING BOX - See why a card trick gets standing ovations time after time. Tommy slowly builds and builds the impossibility of the classic Ambitious Card effect and ends with one of the best versions of the signed card to box plot in existence.

Tommy also demonstrates his fabulous handlings for two classic effects-Card Through Handkerchief and Everywhere and Nowhere.

I'm not knocking Toibox, but why would someone buy something that is inferior to effects that already exist?

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On 2006-07-11 23:44, tdowell wrote:
As for the spectator, I think it has ten times the impact when they immediately see the empty box with no fishy moves or cover. I've had people grab my Mystery Box right after the revelation and start examining it right away only to find nothing. That's powerful stuff.


You make a good point. People don't grab Toibox. They don't suspect the box. The Kennedy and any unique looking box screams "GIMMICK" I don't care how well someone manufactures it to look ungimmicked.
Magic is always stronger with normal everyday looking props. Same reason none of us would perform with Black Tiger cards. Spectators would simply believe the cards are "tricky"

When I do a private show I often let the spectator who helped me keep the tin! Can't do that with a Gimmicked Box and that is extremly powerful to the audience. The simpler you make your magic the stronger it becomes.

Some of you are still commenting on the video and it was explained that the video was only to show what kind of effect Toibox is and in no way should be compared to routines and handling you are getting in the book. ToiBox is different then the Bruno Hennig and the Kaps version and other versions. Please stop criticizing something you have not even bothered to learn about.

All the different card to box effects all have a place in the magic world. They all have their shining moment. They all have that time when that is the best box to use. ToiBox in my opinion shines when it comes to working restaurants. Nothing else plays this big while packing so small and has so much versatility with so little work.

, Jonathan
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On 2006-07-12 00:33, kammagic wrote:

Some of you are still commenting on the video and it was explained that the video was only to show what kind of effect Toibox is and in no way should be compared to routines and handling you are getting in the book. ToiBox is different then the Bruno Hennig and the Kaps version and other versions. Please stop criticizing something you have not even bothered to learn about.


Well, I think one of the many issues people have with the Toibox is that your product webpage is extremely misleading.

For instance, if the spectator could really remove the card as your website implies (signed card), I would have bought 2 on the spot. Luckily, I found this thread.

Don't get me started on the demo.
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On 2006-07-12 01:28, CharlieC wrote:
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On 2006-07-12 00:33, kammagic wrote:

Some of you are still commenting on the video and it was explained that the video was only to show what kind of effect Toibox is and in no way should be compared to routines and handling you are getting in the book. ToiBox is different then the Bruno Hennig and the Kaps version and other versions. Please stop criticizing something you have not even bothered to learn about.


Well, I think one of the many issues people have with the Toibox is that your product webpage is extremely misleading.

For instance, if the spectator could really remove the card as your website implies (signed card), I would have bought 2 on the spot. Luckily, I found this thread.

Don't get me started on the demo.


Tell me how Jonathan implied the card the spectator removes from the tin is signed. Jonathan has not mislead any of you. Stop making up stuff.

I won't get you started on the demo because there is nothing to be started. It has already ended.
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