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oliver_wolf
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Hello Bob,

I have read some of your work and feel very honoured that you answered me!

The original principle was indeed based on a special property that only
paper has. I am looking for something that has the same handling or a similar
method as the menta color or tell-a-color cards from a performance point of view.

After some thoughts I found something: Poker chips!
I am already working on a close-up routine with them. They do not look as
suspicious as cards but something more casual would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Oliver
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Now I understand, Oliver. It appears that you are really looking for are effects involving touch reading or hidden markings. Effects like Al Koran's classic "Note Under Cup" come to mind.

Bur I generally use the Fillman principle with blank cards. (Living and Dead type effects, etc.) While I agree that colored or specially printed cards can seem suspicious in some circumstances, I don't see how that would apply to blank cardboard cards that the spectators write on. Of course, if you take this approach it's probably necessary that you cut your own cards.

Good thoughts,

Bob
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Great help! Thank you.

(I have to read the classics ...)
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On 2006-07-18 04:47, Bananafish wrote:
For some great effects using the principle, check out Chazpro's Telepathy cards.

http://www.chazpro.com/Product_Line/Prod......elepathy

This is for me on eof the really great principles of magic, and Telepthy cards puts it to really good use.




I'm getting a 404 error on this link

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Yes, that is a 5 year old link. Now you will have to search the auction site.

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Posterboard is all you need.
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357 by Tom Lauten, is a very nice routine using this principle.
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The .357 DVD actually demonstrates in a visual way how to make your own cards.
The Mati Envelope
A brandnew peek device for the working mentalist!

Chance's Token
Tarot cards in a scenic piece of mystery.....
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On 2011-05-27 17:46, Nicolino wrote:
The .357 DVD actually demonstrates in a visual way how to make your own cards.


I don't remember that.

I will have a look at the DVD tonight.
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It's not hard. Just go to a stationary shop and get cutting. 357 is great though!
Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
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It's not hard. Just go to a stationary shop and get cutting. 357 is great though!
Yet again that oaf has destroyed my day
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To my understanding Clark "The Senator" Crandall, originated and created Ment-A-Maze.
If any one wants to pm me about where I can find Fillman principle please do...

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Nicolino
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First mentioning of the 'bias-cut principle' was to my knowledge 1938 in Sphinx.
Later appearance was in 1971's MAGICK #34), p.167 and in 1972's issue #41, p.202
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The best card stock to use is heavy Bristol board. (100 lb or higher) It has a much better defined grain than generic poster board.
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In the Magick that I read it does not say Fillman... Maybe I missed it... I will read it again.
But in this same write up there is a living dead trick.
Thanks for the ref info.

So this post inspired me to work out "The Senator's" presentation.
And I have to say I was very pleased with the reaction this little trick received by the audience.

Best of luck
Chuck
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If anyone cares to know this is what I found...

After a re-read Magick #34 p.167(1971) Tan Hock Chaun is the one who wrote this up.
However in the first Sentence
"Great minds in music, medicine, chemistry, and literature over the years and Independently have chanced upon ideas of striking similarities."
It goes on to say;
"The subtle principle which makes possible the seemingly inexplicable quick and dead affect contributed to Magick by Singapore's Tan Hock Chaun, was discovered first by Tan and published in the Sphinx in 1938."

NEXT
1972's issue #41, p.202
In this write up it mentions this principle is used in Crandall's "Ment-A-Maze"
And my Supreme magic's "Ultimate living and dead test"
In the last paragraph of this article...
"The peculiarities Of the bias cut long have been known to printers. most magicians know it as the Fillman principle since it was independently hit upon and popularized by Bob Fillman then Of San Antonio and now of Australia"

Best of luck
Chuck
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