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This is just one big amazing illusion.How he did it,i have no idea.There is no way,it is camera tricks of any kind,because you can see the same surroundings,before and after the trick.Just see for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOBYYrGB8......%20angel
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If fact it's just the opposite. It IS a camera trick and the evidence is right in front of your eyes. Look at it again!

Its not hard to figure out if you have any experience with forced perspective camera shots.

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Tim
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I am not sure,what your talking about.In which point on this video,you see video editing?
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There's no editing, just creative use of the camera. I'm sure Alfred Hitchcock could spot the method if he were alive today.

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CAn you be more specific,pr send me pm,on how this trick works? was there a drain,before this trick? Surroundings looks the same.
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The Café is not the place to be asking for/fishing for secrets. I feel that Tim and I have been fair in providing enough hints towards the methodology, without exposing anything, that if you were interested in learning how this effect is accomplished you would be capable of researching it.

However, rest assured that had you been there, you would have seen exactly how the effect worked. In fact, even IF you were in the exact position of the camera, the nature of the human eye would not allow you to fall for this effect. In the film world, this would count as a 'practical effect' or a 'special effect' since editing did not contribute to the effect generated.

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That is most unimpressive I must say.
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On 2006-07-16 03:07, NFox wrote:
The Café is not the place to be asking for/fishing for secrets. I feel that Tim and I have been fair in providing enough hints towards the methodology, without exposing anything, that if you were interested in learning how this effect is accomplished you would be capable of researching it.

However, rest assured that had you been there, you would have seen exactly how the effect worked. In fact, even IF you were in the exact position of the camera, the nature of the human eye would not allow you to fall for this effect. In the film world, this would count as a 'practical effect' or a 'special effect' since editing did not contribute to the effect generated.

Nick Fox



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Dear My Magician Friends,

Don't ever tell anybody magic secrets in this forum or anyplace else.
But the Storm Drain Illusion is not a magic trick. Sorry Criss!
The secret is in the hand of the cameraman and not in the magician...

Warmest Regards,
Saman Zerin
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I had to watch twice. At first I was like - um who cares. then he rolls up the cap. Pretty cool.
Fun with a camera. I'll post an example of this soon - We filmed an illusion with a camera that uses force perspective with stage magic about a year back.
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If any of you will know the secret,you would at least pm me.I searched term" force perspective",and none of the things describe,under this word,matches the effect shown on this video.He is standing at the same spot,at all times.
The only explanation is,that the drain is where the camera is standing,and drain"poster" is fake,its like the camera is pushed back,so viewers wont see the real one,but watching the sides,and that white square shadow behind him,theres no way,this could happen.I really would like,someone to pm me,and explain me,how this is done.thank you
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Somebody told me about it before I saw it. My expectations were too high. I was disapointed, but I thought it was a cute little bit, but not very hard to figure out. I still highly respect the guy. This is still the kind of stuff I'd like to do more of.
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It's easy to figure out, just a camera trick. I still give him credit for coming up with it though. I haven't seen it done before and they made it look good.
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Robertk4you : Stop asking. We all just told you. Cant get more specific than this.
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Robert, The Magic Café is not the place to come in and ask about secrets. Especially not this part of the Café. Watch very closely at the drain and its surroundings. You´ll get it eventually.

I don´t know if this actually counts as a magic trick. Maybe TV magic would be more suited. No, there is no camera editing. Still I liked the idea
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On 2006-07-16 13:23, Tyler_Magician wrote:
It's easy to figure out, just a camera trick. I still give him credit for coming up with it though. I haven't seen it done before and they made it look good.
-Tyler


Yes it was pretty clever. I'd give it high marks if not for that BAAAADDDD acting..." Oh Oh... I need a massage..." LOL

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Tim
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Cool idea, but not so imperssive becouse you can figure out easily... Anyway 5/3...

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Paul

PS:I don't like DVD magic... anybody can do it if he/she has the money for a good cameraman team...
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I thought that it was original. True, it will end up being a "throw away" thing that he did for tv, but it played well, the average viewing public was probably entertained, so Criss Angel scores again.

I think that a lot of people's opinions of Mr. Angel's effects would change to that of a bit more understanding, if they had to meet the production schedule that he has to pull these things off.

Was it something that we can run out and buy from the magic shop? No.

Is it anything that Criss will do again. No.

But it was a quick, mystifying bit of tv viewing (for regular people)...and robertk4you! Smile
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On 2006-07-16 15:22, Christopher Starr wrote:
I think that a lot of people's opinions of Mr. Angel's effects would change to that of a bit more understanding, if they had to meet the production schedule that he has to pull these things off.


I can certainly understand the need to fill the airtime with effects. I don't fault Criss for this. If you see the MindFreak series end it will be because Criss is sick of trying to ( or can't ) keep it fresh with new illusions. I suspect this will happen before ratings drop.

I'll be glad when we get back to live magic. I'll be expecting a heck of a live show from Criss when MindFreak ends. He'll have lots of bucks now to stage some large scale illusions. It'll be interesting to see what he does then.

Best,

Tim
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