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sjdavison
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Hi Guys,
Just wondering where its possible to get a traditional reel, as I've just seen Michael Ammar doing the self tying/untying rope- looks great. Is it expensive?
Another thing- I've never done any rope magic before, and so was wondering what magic to do to surround this piece. Where do you get your rope from also?
Thanks for the advice,
Simon
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Scott Ocheltree
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I have heard that the Owen reel is very good but I haven't used it myself. It's kind of expensive, but I think that I'd like to have a really great reel. For the price of the Owen product I would hope that it's fast and perfectly silent. Does anyone have personal experience with it?
I have an aging Paul Diamond reel that I just can't coax to work reliably or quietly any longer. I used to use it at the end of my linking rings to put a silk thru a solid ring. The silk penetration is really the only trick i like with a reel. the animated rope or silk just never looks convincing to me.
KingStardog
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Yes, fairly expensive. You can get a cheapie brass one for $10 at daytona. I have not ordered it yet so I can't comment, but thats the cheapest brass one you will find.
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martini
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The Kirkendall reels are back on the market again, and are the best reels that you can get. They are smooth, quiet, and quality from start to finish. There was a full page ad in either Genii or Magic this month, I do not know the new price but when kirk was still alive they wwere selling for $35 which was a bargain when you considered the amount of work that went into machining them.
Hope this helps
Marty
Larry Davidson
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Kirkendall gets my vote as well.
Scott Ocheltree
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Cool! I like hearing the recomendations for the Kirkendall reel - I saw the ad but didn't know anything about them - their website isn't very informative. If they are as good as you say then they are a REEL bargain! (sorry Smile )
The cheap-o $10 brass ones are lousy - very rattly and loud - icky feel too. I don't know if i'm talking about the same one Daytona carries, but I got a fairly nice LOOKING little brass reel from somebody a couple years ago - can't remember who, it was made in India tho. And bad. I think the thread AND the spring broke on the one I had. I was able to repair in, but nothing I could do would make it quiet.
Are the Kirkendall one's truly silent? Are the new ones the same as before? Can anyone compare these to the Owen reel?
sjdavison
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What's the performing distance like with the rope effects? Any chance of doing it while table hopping?
Thanks again.
ps any hints concerning more rope magic would be appreciated.
Simon
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Terry
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Has anyone had any experience with the Kennedy Retractor??

I've heard that is supposed to be a good piece of equipment.

Terry
sjdavison
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Also, Is it possible to do the knots effect with a smaller piece of rope and a stealth retractor? This might be better for close up work.
Thanks again,
Simon
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Scott Ocheltree
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sjdavison-
There is a lot of rope magic you can choose from. The obvious Professor's Nightmare, or any cut and and restored rope routine. But you would have to switch out the ropes in order to get the one with the reel into play.
An interesting effect I have seen is to use a rope to lasso a selected card inside of a paper bag. It uses a completely different type of gimmick, but you could have a rope prepared to do both tricks - it would defintely not be examinable at that point.
The only rope trick I currently do is a simple cut and restored rope routine. I use cheap cotton clothes-line with the core removed. If I was going to prepare a rope by attaching a reel or other gimmicks I would want to use nicer "magician's rope". I know that Aldo Colombini sells excellent rope at: http://www.mammamiamagic.com/rope.htm
But most online dealers have something available.
bekralik
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>Also, Is it possible to do the knots effect
>with a smaller piece of rope and a stealth
>retractor? This might be better for close
>up work.

The Stealth Retractor doesn't have the same torque as a traditional reel so I would be hesitant to use it to move heavier objects, even a smaller piece of rope.
Peter Evans
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Reference: Martini's message......

"The Kirkendall reels are back on the market again, and are the best reels that you can get. They are smooth, quiet, and quality from start to finish. There was a full page ad in either Genii or Magic this month (Dec 02)"

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So does anyone know if Kirkendall reels are back on the market again as indicated by Martini? I haven't seen them anywhere.
Bill Hegbli
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I don't know how a Kirkendall reel can be on the market as Mr. Kirkendall is deceased. If there are any reels, they may make a comparison, but to say it is a Kirkendall would be an error. George did all his own work.

Marty Martini may know where they are available as well he may carry them, he is a dealer.

http://www.martinismagic.com/

You may email him.

Stevens Magic has a new Utility Reel for sale here:

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2045

I went to Martini site, did not see any Kirkendall reels advertised.

http://www.martinismagic.com
martini
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Greetings:
The website for the Kirkendall reels is no longer working. As the ads in the magazines stated; Gaylord Johnson (Protege to George Kirkendall for 35 years) was making the reels available again.
We have been unable to make contact with Gaylord or get any more reels for a while now. Check with Stevens Emporium as Bill stated above, or try calling Betty at Haines House of Cards 513-531-6548 to see if they have any of the original Kirkendall, or Gaylords reels around yet.
I still use a Kirkendall reel and it has never left me down yet, it is one of the best you will find.
Hope that this helps.
All the Best
Marty
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Are any of the reels offered by penguin magic worthwile?? They seen king of expensive!!
Always remember, the best effects cost nothing. Practice is worth more than gold.
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