Simon Aronson's probably got the most info out on the memorized deck. Any of his books would have a bunch of effects using it. Juan Tamariz has one on his Lessons In Magic, Vol. 2 video, as well as on A-1 All-Stars, Vol. 3. Also, I believe that his book on the memorized deck will be coming out sometime next year (we're hoping!). Darwin Oritiz has three effects in his latest book. There's something in Michael Close's Workers, Vol. 5. There's probably some other resources out there, but that's all I can think off of the top of my head.

-Jim

Here is a partial list:

The Jinx - Volumes 51-100
p. 394 Gnome Madness

The Life and Times of a Legend - Annemann
p. 77 Ralph Read's Latest Percected Mental Masterpiece - Other Routine 14

Simply Simon
p. 153 Past, Present, Future
p. 194 Madness in our Methods

Al Baker's Magical Ways and Means
p. 98 An Impossible Count

Leo Boudreau’s Spirited Pasteboards
p. 71 HEADY STUFF

Workers Number 5
p. 91 Memorized Mama Fooler
p. 126 The Wishing Trick
p. 131 Tut Tut
p. 138 The Invisible Deck
p. 143 The Smiling Mule
p. 145 Monkey in the Middle
p. 148 The Haunted Deck

Dunninger's Book of Magic
p. 78 Second Sight Deluxe

The Greater Artful Dodges of Eddie Fields
p. 107 Another Problem Posed - Method 2
p. 121 Geller's Proxy

Paul Gordon Strikes Back!
p. 20 Lunacy in Our Mode

Encyclopedia of Card Tricks
p. 392 Stop
p. 393 Cards by Weight
p. 393 Weighing Chosen Cards
p. 394 The Sense of Touch
p. 394 Locating
p. 395 Spelling
p. 395 To Spell Any Card Called For
p. 396 Thought Anticipated
p. 398 Unconscious Thought Transmission
p. 399 Wizard's Whist
p. 400 All Trumps
p. 400 The Spelling Bee
p. 400 The Game of Poker
p. 400 The Game of “NAP”
p. 400 To Name the Position of Any Card Called For
p. 401 To Pick Out Any Card Called For Behind the Back
p. 401 To Produce Cards Called For from the Pocket

Stewart James in Print - The First Fifty Years
p. 691 The Open Prediction - Number Twenty-Five

The Six-hour Memorized Deck
p. 147 The Lazy Mentalist Returns
p. 152 The Poupart Trick
p. 156 Patton Pending
p. 161 Pattonology
p. 166 The Humming Speller
p. 171 Your Lucky Day!
p. 175 Scratch It
p. 180 Red, White, and Blue

Ibidem
p. 45 The Open Prediction - No. 25

The New York Magic Symposium - The Collection Four
p. 77 In The Shadow Of The Synchronous

The Nikola Card System
p. 22 Stop
p. 23 Cards by Weight
p. 23 Weighing Chosen Cards
p. 24 The Sense of Touch
p. 25 Human Magnetism
p. 27 Locating
p. 29 Spelling
p. 30 To Spell Any Card Called For
p. 31 Thought Anticipated
p. 34 Unconscious Thought Transmission
p. 36 Wizard's Whist
p. 38 All Trumps
p. 39 The Spelling Bee
p. 39 The Game of Poker
p. 39 The Game of “NAP”
p. 39 To Name the Position of Any Card Called For
p. 39 To Name the Card Occupying Any Given Position
p. 39 To Name the Pack in Order, Without Looking at It, Either from the Bottom or from the Top
p. 41 To Pick Out Any Card Called For Behing the Back
p. 41 To Pick Out a Card Chosen and Replaced
p. 41 To Produce Cards Called For from the Pocket
p. 43 To Name the Bottom Cards of a Number of Heaps by Looking at the Top Cards

Rich with a Twist
p. 5 Test Condition Card Trick

Kabbala - Volume II
p. 58 Some People Think
p. 60 Group Shuffle

The Lost Pages of the Kabbala
p. 26 Wired Hidden Power

Cardfixes
p. 202 Topping Mental Topper - Memorized Mentalism

Card Finesse II
p. 242 Off-Hand Hooker

Expert Card Mysteries
p. 134 Question for Connoiseurs

Classic Sampler
p. 35 The Memorized Deck
p. 37 The Monkey’s Paw
p. 38 One For The Boys

Martin:

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise. It is an honor and a pleasure to have you as a member of the Magic Café.

-Marty

Marty:

It's nice of you to welcome me to The Magic Café. Sharing our magic is what we all do here. I guess it brings us what we call the Magic of sharing.

Martin

Martin,
I really injoyed reading your book "The Six-hour Memorized Deck".

I don't know if your stack is the best, just because it is the only one I know. One thing for sure is I learned it real fast (less than six hours}. And after not even touching it for about a four weeks I only missed two the 1st time through.

Now I have my eye out for effects that doesn't destroy the stack. Workers 5 is on the way.

Russ

No mather which stack someone chooses to learn, the best stack is the one he uses. Many thanks Russ for learning and using mine.

Martin

To add to (and probably overlap a bit) Mr. Joyal's list of memorized deck effects, check out the updated version of the list I keep:

Scott's list of memory-related effects

Keep in mind, these are memory effects in general. Many use memorized decks, but not all.

Thanks for your list of material, Mr. Joyal! I always enjoy finding more memory-related effects, so you've whetted my appetite quite a bit with your post!

I use the Aronson Stack, it really is the most supurb mememorised deck order I know of, and with a mass of books explaining both techniques and ideas using the stack it is such a great resourse. Go learn it!

>>> Scott,

Thanks for your comment. Your list is very I'mpressive and useful. You not only give the titles but also a description of the effect. Great work! You were lucky to put your hand on Zufall’s books.

Since you are interested in all memory-related effect , and considering the fact that your list contains pseudo-memory effects, here are some memory effect you might want to add to your list (if not already included).

Martin


The Jinx - Volumes 101-151
p. 622 Mentelimination
p. 622 Mentelimination - Two
p. 622 Mentelimination - Three

The Life and Times of a Legend - Annemann
p. 286 Two Betting Propositions - A - Variation
p. 286 Two Betting Propositions - B - Variation

Al Baker's Magical Ways and Means
p. 104 A Miracle of Memory


These Are a Few of My Favorite Things
p. 9 Me(s)morize
p. 11 Me(s)morize II
p. 11 Me(s)morize III

Chan Canesta - A Remarkable Man
p. 79 Fourth Card Experiment - An Experiment in Memory
p. 82 Fifth Card Experiment - How Do You Do It?

The Greater Artful Dodges of Eddie Fields
p. 145 The Lost Integrated Deck- Second Effect


Roberto Giobbi's Card College - Volume 1
p. 145 A Phenomenal Memory


Encyclopedia of Card Tricks
p. 183 The Magi's Detection
p. 211 Card Memory


The Compleat Magick - Volume II
p. 14B Stacked


The Compleat Magick - Volume III
p. 10 Psi-Clops
p. 320 Mem-O-Rex!


The Compleat Magick - Volume IV
p. 54 The Eyes of Cheops
p. 223 Memory Bank
p. 505 Card Counter


Ten New Sleight of Hand Card Tricks
p. 21 The Suits Unscrambled


Charles Jordan's Best Card Tricks
p. 49 Quadruple Concentration
p. 50 The Magi's Detection
p. 52 "Magi's Detection" Notes


The Handbook of Mental Magic
p. 226 Mathematical Discovery


Slow Motion Magic - Volume I
p. 80 There Are Many Legal Tricks for a Resourceful Gambler
p. 81 Another Routine with an Ordered Deck


The Linking Ring 94-03
p. 81 Memorable Deck Memorization


Card Cavalcade II
p. 90 Deck Memorization


Card Tricks and How To Do Them
p. 64 Magic Versus Mnemonics


Scarne on Card Tricks
p. 44 The Memory Test
p. 251 Si Stebbins' Master Memory Test


Conjurers' Psychological Secrets
p. 107 Setting-up the Pack During the Performance


Miracles of My Friends
p. 133 Believable


Steranko on Cards - Volume One
p. 99 Fantasy Card Routine - The Retention


50 Tricks - You Can Do - You Will Do - Easy To Do
p. 35 Phenomenal Memory
p. 51 Bridge and Poker Demonstration


101 Easy-to-Learn Classic Magic Tricks
p. 127 Super Memory

A friend of mine has a stack that looks quite random (sample from the middle: 7H, 10D, 5S, 10C, 8H) but one only needs to learn a few very simple rules to know the position of any card. Is this fairly unique or are there other stacks that do this?

>>> Rob,

It seems that what you are referring to is a CARD SYSTEM and not a MEMORIZED DECK. This is not unique. There are many card systems based on mathematical calculations: Si Stebbins, Osterlind's Breakthrough Card System, Harding System, Berg Stack, Dyment's QuickStack, Gauci's 15 Minutes No Mnemonic Card System, Wild's System, just to name a few. In some of these systems, simple calculations based on a known card allows you to know the next one. In others, simple calculations allow you to translate a card to its position and/or a position to a card.

If you would like to know more, please visit the Milestones section at http://www.joyalstack.com/

Martin

I recently had the priveledge to meet Darwin Ortiz and asked him for his opinion and recommendation on this very subject and I thought I would share this with the forum.

His answer was quite simple. He said too many magicians get hung up on this very subject of which stack is best, etc., etc. His suggests the best thing to do is not get hung up on which stack is best and just take a new deck and in-faro 4 times and memorize it and most importantly, use it. that's it.

I encourage anyone interested in memorized decks to read the essay: An Introduction to Full-Deck Stacks, which expands considerably on several issues related to this subject.

... Doug

Doug & Martin:

I'm glad that you two are here. Thanks for sharing.