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Isaiah Veteran user 376 Posts |
OK I hav elooked at other threads but I cannot find one that discusses patter for the trick. Can anyone give me a few ideas to run on. Thank you
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Danny Hustle Inner circle Boston, MA USA 2393 Posts |
Isaiah,
I just saw your professor cheers question as well. The patter or what you say for a trick is what makes the trick personal to you. Most of the people here who have written an original routine would rather write you a check instead of handing over original material. Not to mention someone else's script would probably not suit your character. This is stuff you need to write for yourself if you want it to suit you. Look at the props and think of what they mean to you. Why are they funny? What could make them more interesting. Find things in other art forms that may inspire you to create something original. Sometimes you just have to sit there and look at the thing everyday for a year until an idea pops into your head about it. But when it does it will be yours, and better than anything you could find here because of that. Best, Dan- "MT is one of the reasons we started this board! I’m so sick of posts being deleted without any reason given, and by unknown people at that." - Steve Brooks Sep 7, 2001 8:38pm ©1999-2014 Daniel Denney all rights reserved. |
Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Hello Isaiah:
Dan's points are well taken, but I offer you a different approach. I suggest you invest in some kid-show books like the Kid Stuff Series, Silly's Billy's book, and David Ginn's Professional Magic for Children. There are wonderful routines in these books that you can use as points of departure for nearly all your routines. The Silly Billy book gives you less scripts than Kid Stuff and Ginn, but shows you how to systematically put together a routine with the elements in it that kids love. If you don't have it yet, you must get it as it will teach you how to put together a routine...in your case, a routine for you HH Rabbits. I've never been able to think up routines like Dan, but I do very well in adapting scripts and using the scripts as a starting point. I think it is a very sound habit to use others' routines like an actor uses a script for a play or movie. I hope this helps you, Isaiah. Ron |
Isaiah Veteran user 376 Posts |
Dan, I agree with you a lot although I must mention I think this website was set up for magicians to help out other magicians. Now I didn't necessarily ask for a complete routine but just soem ideas that other poeople have done with these props, so I could explore other avenues that I have thought about. I have a routine, but what do others do? How could I improve something by finding more out about what others do with the routine. This is nnot stealing, but building and thinking outside of my box of thoughts. Basically I am stuck in my routine and would like alternative avenues or ideas to build off of. So...any suggestions..
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Marvello Inner circle It's amazing how little I can say in 1612 Posts |
Start thinking about what magical things the props themselves do - Broken down in to its basic elements you have:
1) Object (rabbits) 2) Cover (hat tube/boxes) 3) Transformation (black to white, and back again, and then to red and green or whatever) Using these elements you can do many things with them- you can play "look no see" with the rabbits and act like you don't see the transformation. You can do the sucker effect of turning them around and acting like your audience didn't see your "ultra magical moves." You can also start off with 2 black rabbits that turn in to 2 white rabbits, or vice versa (like fraidy cat rabbit x 2). You can say that the rabbits always jump to the same colored hat, and then switch hats, while turning the hats around to show that the backside is the same color to make the "change." You could say you are going to do the "rabbit in the hat trick" and then pull out the Hippity Hops and pull them out of the hats as a gag, and then start your routine. Rabbits, hats, magic transformation - they all seems to be basic elements of a lot of magic. First think of a reason why these magical transformations could be taking place, and then think of how they fit in to your character. Why are there 2? Why are they changing? etc..
Never criticize someone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away from them and you will have their shoes.
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Danny Hustle Inner circle Boston, MA USA 2393 Posts |
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On 2006-08-05 14:10, Isaiah wrote: Isaiah, I think you took my comment the wrong way. I was not talking about stealing. And I was sincerely trying to put you on what in my opinion is the right path to becoming a good entertainer and performer. It is my opinion that anything you get that is done or a completed script and try to reverse engineer it to suit you would only give you a mediocre product. In the children's entertainment market there are all ready far too many mediocre performers. By taking the path less followed you not only be a better entertainer you will be original. No one will be able to walk into the magic store and buy what you are doing. I get a lot of my inspiration from old Harold Lloyd films you might get your from watching MTV. That is looking outside the box. That is applying something that nobody else is doing to a magic trick. Buy Patrick Page's videos on gags for kids. Then figure out a gag on your own that suits you. Find two or three more that will fit the hippity hop rabbits and create something that is you. That will give you a much better routine that taking ideas from somebody else's. Bottom line is I was trying to help you out. Sorry it came across as otherwise. Best, Dan- "MT is one of the reasons we started this board! I’m so sick of posts being deleted without any reason given, and by unknown people at that." - Steve Brooks Sep 7, 2001 8:38pm ©1999-2014 Daniel Denney all rights reserved. |
Isaiah Veteran user 376 Posts |
I understand, I wasn't angry by any means. Thanks for the gag video idea.
Isaiah |
chris mcbrien Inner circle Chicago 1235 Posts |
Ron, Dan and Marvello are ALL correct and hold a piece of the puzzle.
You need to know the psychological methods to get reactions....Silly Billy is a great crash course in these methods. You should use the methods and the mechanics of the props plus YOUR personality to make them funny. You audience will let you know if it works. Best Wishes with one of my favorite props (and I use these on adults with GREAT success!) Chris |
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