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Quick reply to Dr Spektor, a segment from our instructions explaining a bit on the choice of name (Induction as opposed to Deduction)...

"...This particular skill set and methodology has often been referred to as 'Holmesian Deduction' by legitimate scientists and others interested in logic but the term 'deductive' may actually be inaccurate given that much of what Sherlock performed appears to consist primarily of 'arguments to the best explanation' - or inductive reasoning"

We do indeed weave induction into the story line of the effect...but yes we thought inductive as opposed to deductive produced a humorous ackronym. And by the way, I might note that it should acurately be referred to not merely as S.H.I.T, but THE S.H.I.T...if you will...but of course, simply Sherlock Book Test will do. And BTW no stooges required.
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Ah... I didn't think of that i.e. THE S.H.I.T. -> then it makes it tres kewl Smile Without the THE... I was worried... the THE makes it! Just like Batman is way better when referred to as THE Batman

Thanks for the info! No doubt I'll be picking this up regardless since I'm a Holmesian fan...

But I think from what the effect is - I will portray it as being Arthur Conan Doyle outdoing his creation, Sherlock! "When you have eliminated the impossible.... etc etc... hey its Psychic Powers!!!"

Hmm.. that is a good premise -> like the gambler vs. the magician -> the Psychic vs. Sherlock
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LOL...thanks for the laugh
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I'm really interested in this and also the dracula test, could they work together? For instance, could one of the books available to be picked up by the spectator be the dracula book?

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I would venture to say yes. One of the ways we present the Sherlock effect is by having an audience member on stage choose a book and hand it to a seated audience member. There is a pattern in Dracula but it is highly unlikely that the audience member would find it, especially if he/she is not looking for it, and especially if the seated audience member is paying attention to the show and not diligently searching for some code in a book they have no idea is gaffed. Dracula is especially useable if there's only one participant handling both books, as you are in control regarding the amount of time they have to inspect the book if indeed it is inspected.
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Realising that this is a mentalist board, and I should be able to read minds, I do have a question.

The link http://www.blacksmagicshop.com/public/sherlock.html works fine however there is something missing, something important from that advertisement that would even stump Sherlock himself; anyone want to guess what's missing?

The cost!

How much?

The page says "Price Unavailable"....

Or is there a clue craftly hidden on the book cover?
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You'll have to create an account and log in to see the price. If it's ok to reveal it here, the price for both Sherlock and his darker evil counterpart is $49.90.
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Umm, is there anyone else who has the Sherlock Holmes book test who can give a review here? That is what this thread is about, isn't it?
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Todsky,

:) Nice....yes it is but can Dracula be added also? Im still getting nice results with it, especially at night strolling.

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On 2006-08-11 03:01, mindguy wrote:
The link http://www.blacksmagicshop.com/public/sherlock.html works fine however there is something missing, something important from that advertisement that would even stump Sherlock himself; anyone want to guess what's missing?



Reuben,

While you were referring to the missing price, I initially thought you may have been alluding to the fact that the headline at the page touting the Sherlock Holmes Inductive Book Test (wonderful name!), oddly enough, reads "Get your own Dracula Book Test."
There's another page at the website, bearing the same headline, which does (approprately enough) feature the Dracula Book Test. Seems the page featuring the Sherlock Holmes one needs a different title, though.

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Thanks for pointing that out, the site has been updated. Anything else that we may have missed in haste? PS thanks maddened for pointing out the need for logging in to view prices. Perhaps it deters a small few, but our cart is set that way for obvious marketing purposes.
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Tod (Cherry):

Candini has a question on using the Dracula book as the other book for the Sherlock Holmes test and wants to know if it will work. My understanding is an unqualified YES, as from what I understand from the two books. Could you confirm to him whether or not the two work in conjunction?

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Thanks Tony for alerting my attention...oh btw its Troy Smile

Anabelle had a similar question above... I'll copy my response here, as I understand that we don't catch every post:

[I would venture to say yes (you can use Sherlock with Dracula). One of the ways we present the Sherlock effect is by having an audience member on stage choose a book and hand it to a seated audience member. There is a pattern in Dracula but it is highly unlikely that the audience member would find it, especially if he/she is not looking for it, and especially if the seated audience member is paying attention to the show and not diligently searching for some code in a book they have no idea is gaffed. Dracula is certainly useable if there's only one participant handling both books, as you are in control regarding the amount of time they have to inspect the book if indeed it is inspected.]
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Sorry Troy, after having read Tod's post, I had his name on my mind.

Tod, I mean Tony Smile
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What I have recently done with guests is have out my Sherlock and Dracula books. They do work well together, no problem at all.

If they pick up Sherlock, I have them inspect the book and choose ANY page, they then pick up the Dracula book and I commence telling them the contents of the page in more or less detail.

If they pick up Dracula first, I have them inspect it, I ask them to flip to ANY page and I tell them a couple of words from the chosen page, then I take it a step further and have them inspect the Sherlock book and choose any page from THAT (making the page selection even more random!), going back to the Dracula book for me to go into even MORE detail on what's contained on that page.

Is that clear? Anyway, it works.

As far as the pattern in Dracula, I AM reading it as a normal book, catching up on the classic I read so many years ago. Sometimes it's a little weird how the words fit together, but you guys did a phenomenal job keeping this pattern secret and well hidden allowing for smooth reading a good 95% of the time.
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Troy, I mean Tony, my name's not Tod, it's actually Todd. Smile
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Hello Todd, my name is Mudd. Smile
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Hi Budd.
Anyone else using the Sherlock Holmes book test? Other reviews?
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Lol...thanks for the laughs guys.
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No problem, Tod.
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