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Sherlock Holmes Inductive Test sounds good! Kudos to the guys who first came up with Dracula and now this Smile Anyone performed with it yet? Full reviews please!!!

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I am looking forward to adding both of these to my shelf of regular books, incase someone comes over and wants to see a trick Smile
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Something that hasn't been asked yet about the Sherlock Holmes book test: how examinable is it?
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Very. I have them look through it pretty good.
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But prep them first Smile

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Todsky:

I've let people hold on to the book, thumb through it, et cetra before going into the routine. Thus far never had a problem whatsoever. We took care to lay it out so that the gaff isn't an issue until they are directed to it. Even then, done right, it never becomes an issue and soon Sherlock doesn't even matter.

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Hmm, I've had the Dracula Book Test for a long time now and I love it.

I am only now bothering to actually look into THE S.H.I.T. I really am kind of surprised I didn't do so earlier. So I understand that it is used to force a page number? Are they able to stop anywhere in the book, as in close to the beginning or end without the anything looking out of place?

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I don't understand the 'Sherlock Inductive Test'. From what I read, the sherlock book is handed out to the first person who thinks of a number. Then that number is used by the second person to find the contents of a completely different book. Will somone help reiterate the effect?
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Yes, more or less.

Basically it is used in a two book book test. The ******** is opened by someone to a random page and they just note the page number.

A second book (which I understand can be any book you want to use and is not gimmicked or gaffed in any way) is opened to the same page as The ******** and then the contents of the page are divined by the magi/mentalist.

In other words, they just use The ******** to get an apparently random page number and then turn to that page in any other book and that is the page used in the test.
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Yes, more or less.

Basically it is used in a two book book test. The ******** is opened by someone to a random page and they just note the page number.

A second book (which I understand can be any book you want to use and is not gimmicked or gaffed in any way) is opened to the same page as The ******** and then the contents of the page are divined by the magi/mentalist.

In other words, they just use The ******** to get an apparently random page number and then turn to that page in any other book and that is the page used in the test.

Why does a mentalist have to introduce a book solely for the benefit of finding a number. It sounds to gimmicked and unnatural in my opinion.
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Why does a mentalist have to introduce a book solely for the benefit of finding a number. It sounds to gimmicked and unnatural in my opinion.


If you are a mentalist and you have performed using books you know that it isn't a problem.

If all you have are books then it makes sense to flip through, have someone call stop, then use that "random" page. As long as you do it nonchalantly.

Make it look like it wasn't planned that way.

Later, you can hand them a book and have THEM pick any page.

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Any more up to date thoughts on this ?

Forgive my confusion, but the words revealed are from the random book, not the Sherlock Holmes book ?

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Correct... in the other book.

I think what is causing some confusion here is that this is more of a tool for book tests, rather than a single book test effect using the text.

I use it in a multi-phase book test and its perfect for what I need.

This is some good S.H.I.T !
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I was just wondering if anyone uses this as a prediction effect rather than as a mind-reading. I have a whole prediction routine planned. The prediction is kept in a sealed envelope from the beginning. Part of my prediction will reveal what page number was chosen and another part will include what word from that page they chose from the other book (not the Sherlock book). There are other items included in my prediction as well. Anyways, has anyone else done this?

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I haven't done it exactly that way, although it would definitely work. I use it in conjunction with several other books - I first used it with the Dracula Book Test at a demo for my show. Needless to say the lady was very, very amazed when I described to her the entire paragraph she was reading. I also got the booking.

I love these book tests! I also have the Houdini book test.
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To give the spectator a false sense that he/she is in control, I provide 4 books. An ungaffed Da Vinci Code, an ungaffed Harry Potter and the Sherlock Holmes and Dracula books.

I usually introduce the books as two of my favorite classics and two of my favorite modern classics. If the spectator chooses one of the ungaffed books, I simply get a second volunteer to take the Sherlock Holmes book and go into a deductive reasoning story. If they go for the Dracula Book; I go into the story itself and explain how Dracula had a psychic connection with Lucy and they could read each other’s thoughts.

The reactions I get are phenomenal and I cannot say enough about the Sherlock Holmes and Dracula Books. I love how the simplest of tricks can become truly powerful entertainment when handled well.
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So this basically works like the Hoy book test - except the spectator can flip through the book and stop wherever they want?


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To give the spectator a false sense that he/she is in control, I provide 4 books. An ungaffed Da Vinci Code, an ungaffed Harry Potter and the Sherlock Holmes and Dracula books.
I usually introduce the books as two of my favorite classics and two of my favorite modern classics. If the spectator chooses one of the ungaffed books, I simply get a second volunteer to take the Sherlock Holmes book and go into a deductive reasoning story. If they go for the Dracula Book; I go into the story itself and explain how Dracula had a psychic connection with Lucy and they could read each other’s thoughts.


Thank you Zauberer. It would be nice if we could have more posts like yours giving us some ideas how to use props. Sometimes we do not like props we bought because we lack a good presentation idea or a solution to a perceived drawback of the prop. Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland
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On 2007-08-27 13:16, DerZauberer wrote:
To give the spectator a false sense that he/she is in control, I provide 4 books. An ungaffed Da Vinci Code, an ungaffed Harry Potter and the Sherlock Holmes and Dracula books.

I usually introduce the books as two of my favorite classics and two of my favorite modern classics. If the spectator chooses one of the ungaffed books, I simply get a second volunteer to take the Sherlock Holmes book and go into a deductive reasoning story. If they go for the Dracula Book; I go into the story itself and explain how Dracula had a psychic connection with Lucy and they could read each other’s thoughts.

The reactions I get are phenomenal and I cannot say enough about the Sherlock Holmes and Dracula Books. I love how the simplest of tricks can become truly powerful entertainment when handled well.

Kaarlo von Freymann - Helsinki- Finland
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