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The_Malevolent New user 19 Posts |
Title says most of it. Seems to me that it would be easier to construct than most levitations. I really like the climax of the trick. I'm planning on buying the Abbott's building plan for it. Anybody have any advice?
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61magic Special user Sacramento California 775 Posts |
The Osborne plans are more detailed. The form is a bit tricky, but the other construction is not too hard.
The setup and staging of the illusion is much harder than the construction. Getting the lighting correct, and all the assistants coordinated is a chore. Be prepaired for a lot of work to present this one unless you are building to sell. If you look at the Osborne plans he offers one for a New Asrah. The building is a bit easier. There also is the version where the form is handled like a zombie ball. I wouldn't suggest this version as it does not look as real.
Professor J. P. Fawkes
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Face Elite user 495 Posts |
I agree with you 61magic, I have heard this before also, that setting up this for performance is harder than constructing it.
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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
Years ago when I did it we just used a mylar strip curtain to hide the form. Low light & the mylar hid the form so well that the stage crew would often run into it during set-up and rehersal.
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Dave Dorsett Veteran user Macomb, Illinois 345 Posts |
Be careful with the low lighting... I actually found that with the right curtain and rigging you could use a little more light. If the lighting is too dim it detracts from your effect- people assume (rightly) you can hide more in low light. Tape your rehearsals and put spotters in the seats and increase lighting until you're "caught", then go back a bit.
Dave Dorsett
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The_Malevolent New user 19 Posts |
Great input thanks people. Lighting is certainly important. I was already kind of thinking like Dorsett. Does anyone know where I can buy the OSBORNE asrah plan by itself? The only place I've found is abbotts.com and it's $25.00!!!
I'd rather cough up the extra $25.00 and buy the whole book. Also, how big a deal is it that the Abbotts is less detailed? Does it hinder the ability to build in a major way? |
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The_Malevolent New user 19 Posts |
One more thing. I heard there was a version where the figure would "collapse". would that help lower some of the risk involved in performing the illusion.
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pradell Special user Alaska 560 Posts |
The "new" plan can be purchased from Hank Lee's for $25
at http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=112 :magicrabbit: |
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The_Malevolent New user 19 Posts |
Yeah, thanks but that just seems way to high for a plan to me. Can you get his plans for $10.00 or less? I'll just go with Abbott if that's the best price on Osborne.
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61magic Special user Sacramento California 775 Posts |
Osborne plans are available at: http://www.osborneillusionsystems.com/
I don't know if this plan is offered in any of the Osborne books, but he did offer a version in Genii magazine called a self contained Asrah that didn't need a formal stage to present. The site has an email address for questions I have found them to always answer questions, and generally be helpful. Also magic auction has plans for a reduced price. I have built some of my own equipment over the years, and the Osborne plans are much better than the Abbotts plans. Also there is a good book by Byron G. Wells on illusion plans, the Great Illusions of Magic. It is a little expensive at about $75 but it contains a lot of plans, most of which are old Thayer plans. Most of the stuff is not that modern looking but works the same. The best advice I can give is buy the best plans available especially if you are not an experienced builder. The Abbotts plans are short on details.
Professor J. P. Fawkes
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BRodgers Special user 543 Posts |
I second that 61magic, I too have purchased a few Abbotts plans, and some Osborne plans. The Osborne plans are one of the better plans available out there. Before my first build, I had never built anything, let alone an illusion. The Osborne plans are very detailed scale plans, with up close views of the important parts of the illusion. Also, I have built the deceptive base part of the Asrah, and can help with any questions you have when you start building.
Brian
Creator of The Phantom Band 360
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Are there any plans for a vertical one like the one DC did?
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BRodgers Special user 543 Posts |
That version I believe is exclusive to DC, I doupt you will find plans. I could be wrong though.
Creator of The Phantom Band 360
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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
Vertical ashrah is a Copperfield exclusive...?
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Lusion Special user 590 Posts |
I don't think so! that is crazy!
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The_Malevolent New user 19 Posts |
Am I stupid or couldn't you just do the vertical like the horizontal only in a vertical position? If not I'm sure you could come real close.
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BRodgers Special user 543 Posts |
I guess I was wrong about the DC version, I stand corrected. I don't think the vertical asrah is his exclusive, but maybe his presentation of it.
Creator of The Phantom Band 360
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magictim Veteran user Lake Charles, LA 396 Posts |
In the seven basic secrets of illusion design by Eric VanDuzer there is a cross section picture of the basic construction of the verticle asrah form. Very simple design for a such a small form. For those intimidated of building a horizontal form I think that the diagram of the vertical form is a whole lot less trouble to visualize actually building one. The only thing is the book does not go into any more detail on the actual use and staging of the vertical asrah. Hope this answers some questions out there.
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Daniel Faith Inner circle Neenah, Wisconsin 1526 Posts |
Asrah is one of my favorite illusions.
This particular effect really limits the venues you can do. If you have a regular stage you perform on then it will likely work out. If you play different venues then you will do better picking a different illusion. Lots of set up and tweaking required.
Daniel Faith
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David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
Make sure you spend a lot of time getting the form just right and be sure it matches your assistant . I've seen the illusion ruined by some "home-made" versions where the form is very obviously fake and/or the outline of the form doesn't match the proportions of the assistant .
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