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royaltmagic New user Kintuckee 61 Posts |
I used to have a servante on the back of my table, and would cover the zombie with a silk, pick it up and drop it (the zombie) into the servante...throw the silk into the air and the zombie had "vanished".
-Travis |
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Travis,
Would you throw the zombie in the air while still standing behind your table ?
Jonathan
Max & Maxine Entertainment Magicians with a touch of comedy! ___________________________________ www.maxmagician.com www.mindreadershow.com www.monsieurmagic.com |
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Whoops!
Just re-read my post above... Throwing your zombie in the air would create quite an effect. Still, let me re-phrase that... Travis, Would you throw the zombie Foulard in the air while still standing behind your table ? Jonathan
Jonathan
Max & Maxine Entertainment Magicians with a touch of comedy! ___________________________________ www.maxmagician.com www.mindreadershow.com www.monsieurmagic.com |
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Let me be more specific... during my own routine, towards the close of my routine, I ditch my zomie and the gimmick behind my table, then get "pulled" (seemingly) back in front of the table by the still seemingly covered zombie, then I throw the foulard up into the air to show the vanish.
With this type of blocking, I believe that there is a better disconnect, since I am not seen to end my routine standing behind the table, where I logically could have been "possibly" doing some "ditry work" (ie, dumping the ball). Instead, by ending up in front of my table it's a clean finish. The trade off is, trying to ensure (by executing believable body-movements/mime techniques) that that the audience still believes that the ball is under the cloth as I get pulled out in front (of the table). In all honesty, without the gimmick to create the illusion of something under the cloth, the impact (I'm afraid) is less certain. Still, the finale does draw gasps of surprise from "most" of the audience. So, it does work on "some". Not good enough though, since I want "all" in the audience to feel the magic. Suggestions/input?? Jonathan
Jonathan
Max & Maxine Entertainment Magicians with a touch of comedy! ___________________________________ www.maxmagician.com www.mindreadershow.com www.monsieurmagic.com |
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royaltmagic New user Kintuckee 61 Posts |
Jonathan,
Non...I would not still be behing my table when throwing the foulard in the air, but would walk forward. Merci pour votre question... ;-) Votre ami americain, -Travis |
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Merci Travis.
Jonathan
Jonathan
Max & Maxine Entertainment Magicians with a touch of comedy! ___________________________________ www.maxmagician.com www.mindreadershow.com www.monsieurmagic.com |
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Magic Enhancer Inner circle Robert Haas 1805 Posts |
Peter Loughran also offers a zombie finale on his web site full of magic products. His web site is http://www.masterofillusions.ca I believe. May be what you guys and gals can use. If you do stage shows that is.
Haas
Robert Haas
Magic Enhancer Quality magic products for the working professional. www.MagicEnhancer.com |
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Mumblemore Inner circle 1429 Posts |
I have the flash device, figuring I'd use that as an ending, but frankly it's been a little disappointing. Also, I worry that as performance venues get more uptight about fire and flashes, it may become objectionable . . .
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MattMagician Regular user Erie, CO 190 Posts |
I just grab the ball out from beneath the foulard, flip the stick to my arm, and then toss the foulard, showing myself ridiculously clean.
Matt
Matt Simonsen
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts |
I didn't realize how old this thread was and started reading through it. I got to Dennis Michael's post about Doug Henning swapping the zombie ball very fast with a walk on assistant and appearing a live bald eagle. Reading it fast, I thought I saw "a live bald man." That would be a great ending -- eliminate the zombie and show the "ball" under the cloth to be a bald man's head.
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
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On 2006-09-06 06:01, Brent McLeod wrote: That is all very good advice. I used to use the same ending. The left hand reaches up under the cloth and grabs the ball, pulling the gimmick off the right fingers and swinging it against the left fore-arm, alll under cover of the cloth. The right hand grabs a corner of the foulard, snaps it away and flings it around, and then lays it across the left forearm covering the gimmick. The right hand then pulls the ball off the gimmick and sets it on the pedestal, and the gimmick is pulled up with the cloth and laid on the table underneath the cloth as it is laid down. Keeping the routine short enough that the audience can't suss out the angle of support is extremely important, and the most common mistake. Many of the magis' favorite moves are actually tells. Beware of any move that makes the right hand the obvious pivot point. |
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Servante Inner circle 1330 Posts |
Hey, the "Zombie to Bald-Headed Man" is my patented routine!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I've performed the Zombie off and on for years and have in the last couple of years, started experimenting with a new, lighter weight one...well, actually, several different ones as I've found better and better orbs (Hobby Lobby seasonal stuff comes in handy!) And I've moved away from that cork, too. Mine always seemed too uncertain and wobbly. Now you guys have got me to thinking...wondering if there isn't a way to ditch the zombie itself in the servante...then bring the gimmick around to a very lightweight piece sewn into the foulard...a piece just big enough to employ a slight curve...so the end of the gimmick isn't poking up against the foulard. THEN you simultaneously toss up the foulard and flip up the gimmick. Hmm. |
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
Has anyone ever played with using some kind of a larger devil's hank idea for ditching the gimmick?
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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sb Special user 567 Posts |
How about starting with the ball in a heavy duty locked box. Maybe make the box shake before the routine. You notice the shaking, and go and unlock the box, and remove the ball. At the end of the routine you lock it back up.
(after I read this, I think that I was picturing a scene from one of the first Harry Potter movies - where they have one of their flying (quidich - spelling??) balls locked up. It was locked and chained I think....) sb |
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TRUMPETMAN Special user Naples, FL 705 Posts |
The ball that shook the box was called a Blodger. It's job was to try to attack members of the team and keep them from scoring.
Mark Pettey
Naples, FL facebook.com/robbietheringmaster |
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
"Further Tips on Zombie" contains several good ideas for boxes--one with elastic webbing so that as you try to put the ball away, it looks like it keeps trying to resist.
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sb Special user 567 Posts |
I think the most important thing to consider... is what is happening in your routine.
Are you making the ball float? Is the ball floating, and you are just trying to control it? or just trying to "dance" with it? Whats the balls motivation? (Is it a spirit? is it upset that its always in a box? does the ball dislike you? etc...) Are you commanding the "spirits of illusion" to make the ball float? Is the ball symbolic of something else? sb |
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
When I get fabulously wealthy and can afford to have such extravagant props constructed for me the Zombie Ball I wish to have built would be based on the murderous silver Orb in Phantasm.
The routine would start in the traditional manner with the ball floating about playfully of its own volition but end on a darker note when suddenly a series of deadly blades spring out of the ball and it begins to pursue the magician eventually chasing him offstage
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
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On 2009-07-17 14:47, Payne wrote: Sounds like a good routine for a kid's show
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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