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Tom G
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After a lot of searching for a new cup, I called Jake at RnT2. I knew I didn't want a $20 aluminum or copper model, and he made a few suggestions. I ended up getting the copper cup from his SBL line. It's made with two disks of copper making it a solid, heavy cup. It was beautiful. I had a concern about how much grab the ball had. It took a decent thump to dislodge. Well, he told me I could adjust the grab on the ball. Never imagined an adjustable chop cup ball. Spent a few minutes with it to get the comfortable amount of grab, and totally pleased. Great product and service from Jake.
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I too recently learned from Jake about the balls he (RNTII) makes being adjustable.

This made a big difference as the ball from the Foxy II combo set I have held just a bit too much.

Now it works perfectly. Thanks Jake!
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Thank you gentlemen, always appreciate your kind words.

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From what I've been hearing RNT2 is the place to buy cups and balls. I want a killer set of cups and a nice set of balls. I want the cups to be pretty big, like Ammar's in his cups and balls videos. I want a heavy cup probably copper or brass. A set that I could add an identical chop cut to, or a combo set from the begining. WHat's the deal guys.. I'll spend around $200 for the right set

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You may need to spend more than that.
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The cheapest of the "relatively good cups" is probably Johnson Products. You can buy the three cup set for around $200 and you can add a matching Chop Cup for another $75-$100.

Zauberladen carries the Cellini cups and I think they have an insert that can convert Cellini's into Chop Cups. That too will run over the $200 mark.

Those are really the only two "off the shelf" combo products besides the much cheaper/lighter Morrissey combo set. After that, the sky's the limit if you can find someone to adapt their cups for you. I would have suggested Riser, Gary Animal, people like that who make cups, but I don't think either of them are currently producing. RnT2 seems to be the top right now for bringing out new products. Chris Reesman of Encore Magic (maker of the new Ammar cups) might be able to work up something, but any time you work on a "one off" custom job, it'll cost you.

Unless you're creating your own routine from scratch, there are only a few out there that use combo sets. Gazzo does his routine and as a magician you'd swear some of his moves could only be done with chop cups. It's all Gazzo, no gimmicks.

I'm more inclined to just do cups as cups and reserve the chop cup as a separate routine with a different looking cup.
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You can keep an eye out for bargains on ebay. The Charlie Miller cups would be fine. That's the kind John Carney uses.
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There are all sorts of bargains to be had in that price range. Unfortunately, not many of them (if any)come as combo sets.
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Actually, on ebay you can often get the johnson products cups for around $150 if you're patient.

They are very high quality cups. I should not have sold mine but I did.
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DX it sounds like your really looking for the sherwoods.
The copper and brass cups are well weighted and will take a tennis ball sized load. The balls he offers are top notch as well. Save your money for a little bit longer and you won't be disappointed.
I liked the Johnson's until I got my Sherwoods and used Original R-n-T before that.
The new R-n-T 2 seem to be quite nice as well and they have a great variety of cups from whih to choose from.
My Riser Jumbo cups are also top notch and I wanted a cup for years that would take a Baseball. E-mail Jim for details as to availability of his cups as he only makes them a few times a year in very small numbers. He is a very busy maker.
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