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Why is he saying that Hypnotism isn't real?
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In large part it helps him get people into trance. It is also better theater.


BUT the real answer is that to answer this question right, would take up way too many pages, and is well beyond the scope of this forum. It would take the better part of a chapter, maybe and actual book to really answer this.
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Kreskin has for many years said that there is no such thing as a hypnotic trance, and that all things that appear to be hypnosis are merely suggestion. But I guess you got that from the DVD. It appears to be part of his theatre, but his motivation is not clear to me. Perhaps it's a simple matter of "this is what the other guys claim, but look at what I do".

It must work. I don't remember too many details of his TV show from the seventies, but I do remember his repeated attention to suggestion.

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I think it was to avoid all the inherrent legality issues that have popped up over the years around Hypnosis.
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No matter what he says he still jumps in and does a standard hypnosis show after making that claim.

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What Kreskin DVDs are you talking about Slim?
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On 2006-08-25 01:47, Slim King wrote:
Why is he saying that Hypnotism isn't real?


Because it isn't.
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Cheesewrestler have you ever done a hypnosis show giving you the first hand expericence to make that statement or are you just repeating what others have said. This is a two camp question and both sides have their followers. I have done hypnosis shows and I don't and won't ever agree with the position that it isn't real. I've seen the signs and responses up close and personal and the ones that I keep in my show aren't faking it.

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Here we go again! Smile
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OH...I see! Kreskin is SAYING it isn't real to DISARM the audience(Sorry about my dyslexia SP)....Just like his book, How to be a Fake Kreskin.
Pretty clever!
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Yea, tell me you don't believe in Newtons 2nd law, still gonna happen.

2 camps, lets not start a heated debate when Slim asked a perfectly good question.
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How To Be A Fake Kreskin was the title of the book.

Meaning that what Kreskin himself does is real.

On the DVD he says hypnotism - including the hyp act Kreskin himself does - isn't real.

Not the same thing at all.
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Exact oposites. Twist it around and I think you'll see what I'm saying.
How to be a Fake Kreskin isn't real but what I do IS.
Hypnotism isn't real, but what I do IS....Get it.
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How to be a fake Kreskin = "purchasers will learn ways to fake Kreskin's amazing (and real) psychic abilities".

That's the implication of the book title. It reinforces the claim that HIS psychic powers are real.

How does Kreskin's statement that hypnotism ISN'T real reinforce any of his own claims?


PS - don't buy the book (HTBAFK). it's just a couple of lame old mental effects & a bunch of stuff on how great K is. basically an advertising brochure. (kudos to him for not exposing anything good, though.)
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One reason that Kreskin says that hypnotism isn't real is because he works in Ontario, Canada and, until recently, they had in force a law that was essentially a verbatim copy of the British Hypnosis Act of 1952, which essentially banned hypnosis shows, entirely.

So, he would come in, issue his challenge and do his show without ever using the command to sleep nd get around the Canadian law, which wasn't QUITE as tightly written as the British one and allowed that loophole.

George is one smart cookie, folks!

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Exact oposites. Twist it around and I think you'll see what I'm saying.
How to be a Fake Kreskin isn't real but what I do IS.
Hypnotism isn't real, but what I do IS....Get it.


Bingo!

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Exact oposites. Twist it around and I think you'll see what I'm saying.
How to be a Fake Kreskin isn't real but what I do IS.
Hypnotism isn't real, but what I do IS....Get it.


Got it!

Kreskin says hypnotism isn't real because he believes hypnotism isn't real.

Same as he believes fake Kreskin stunts aren't real.
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On 2006-08-27 20:39, Lee Darrow wrote:
One reason that Kreskin says that hypnotism isn't real is because he works in Ontario, Canada and, until recently, they had in force a law that was essentially a verbatim copy of the British Hypnosis Act of 1952, which essentially banned hypnosis shows, entirely.

So, he would come in, issue his challenge and do his show without ever using the command to sleep nd get around the Canadian law, which wasn't QUITE as tightly written as the British one and allowed that loophole.

George is one smart cookie, folks!

Lee Darrow, C.H.


Anyone interested in the REAL explination, read Lee's post again.
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On 2006-08-27 20:39, Lee Darrow wrote:
One reason that Kreskin says that hypnotism isn't real is because he works in Ontario, Canada and, until recently, they had in force a law that was essentially a verbatim copy of the British Hypnosis Act of 1952, which essentially banned hypnosis shows, entirely.

So, he would come in, issue his challenge and do his show without ever using the command to sleep nd get around the Canadian law, which wasn't QUITE as tightly written as the British one and allowed that loophole.

George is one smart cookie, folks!

Lee Darrow, C.H.


Are you sure of this? Reveen performed hypnotism shows across Canada throughout the 70s, as I recall. I'm sure there were others as well.

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The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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A book on how to be a fake Kreskin? That's like being a fake Dunninger! Wait a minute, that's exactly what Kreskin is! Never mind.

I have the DVD "The Amazing Kreskin". Only reason I bought it was because I remember him being on the Mike Douglas show when I was a teenager. The pendant included with the dvd works great and still blows many people away. That, too, is a form of mentalism at its best in the right hands.
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