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Rael New user Northern California 88 Posts |
If you're going to memorize a random stack using mnemonics, might as well just memorize Osterlind's BCS. It looks 100% random and you'll have help should your brain freeze at the wrong time.
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Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2213 Posts |
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On 2006-11-23 23:11, Rael wrote: Thanks Rael. You hit the nail right on the head. Have you ever walked into a room and had a memory lapse? You forget the name of the person in front of you? Did that stop you from doing a simple arithmatic problem? If you are going to use a stack that looks truly random, might I suggest you really study what that means. Things like duplicate and triplicate numerical cards laying right next to each other, in the same half of the deck, along with so many other subtleties that a truly shuffled deck has. You need to be able to slowly fan the cards in front of a spectator and subliminally implant the knowledge they are in no definite order. This is what counteracts any spectator thoughts of wanting to shuffle the cards. There are many built-in effects in any random deck order. One simply has to look for them. Richard |
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Steve Suss Inner circle 1193 Posts |
Although I don't use the BCS since I wanted a stack that will bring me back to new deck order (one of the greatest climaxes you can do with a regular deck), I will say the routining and effects by Mr. Ostarlind are fabulous. I happened to be watching the performance tape with my wife last night and even she enjoyed it. When is the last time your wife enjoyed watching a card trick?
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Robert Apodaca Special user 504 Posts |
I'm currentlylearning the Aronson stack, mainly because it's free on his website.
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hcs Special user Germany, Magdeburg 506 Posts |
Please feel free to try the m3d-stack.
The stack is easy to learn and a unforgettable stack despite long demonstration breaks and small exercise frequency. Completely new for memorized deck magic is that the entire m3d-stack is easy to visualize like a two-dimensional layout – the so-called „mind map “. Once you know this mind map you know immediately the relative positions of all card values to each other card in stack. Learning the stack should be possible without any keywords and arithmetic. http://www.solka2.privat.t-online.de/memdeck/m3d.htm http://www.memdeck.de.ki |
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Rael New user Northern California 88 Posts |
Thanks for the link. I downloaded this and will give it a try. I particulalry like the Translation by Google:
"m3d-Stack, the easy way ton learn A memorized cover" |
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Mystification Special user 571 Posts |
Is it available in English?
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hcs Special user Germany, Magdeburg 506 Posts |
It might be so:
"m3d-english version, free download" http://www.solka2.privat.t-online.de/memdeck/m3d.htm Best regards hcs |
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MTaylor2002 Regular user 196 Posts |
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On 2006-11-16 12:43, Steve Suss wrote: I just want to second this post. Some people swear by Harry Lorayne and others swear at him (LOL) -- he can definitely be controversial! But I studied one of his memory books many years ago as a very young man and I have used them ever since in every facet of my social and professional life. His techniques have been priceless and studying them was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Needless to say I've used his mneumonic method of deck memorization and have memorized a number of different stacks over the years. I finally settled on Osterlind's BCS, because, as pointed out earlier, it appears completely random plus has a built-in memory jogger. As for decks with built-in effects, I haven't discovered any in the BCS but, frankly, the ones I learned in other systems just weren't as powerful to me as the non-stack routines I perform most often. |
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
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On 2006-09-12 08:21, Andrew Wimhurst wrote: I really don't get all the many post that complain about people wanting to harvest some additional information before spending a great deal of time memorizing something. How this all works is obviously obvious to you guys who already know such a system, but it certainly isn't for someone who has recently discovered this new world of possibilities. It's not like a performer you see usually calls out "and this was done with a Tamariz stack by the way". How would I know something like that? If all stacks worked the same, then there wouldn't exist more than one system, so that simply isn't logical. A WILLINGNESS to learn is just as big a motive to ask about different stacks as laziness. Why learn a 26 card stack if a 52 card one gives you more possibilities? The criteria I would value in a stack system would be: 1. The ability to shuffle into it from a (US) new deck order. 2. Being able to do at least one good trick of locating someone's card (Having read Aronson's Memories Are Made of This today, I have for instance noted a trick I like called Pulse Reading.) 3. Being able to somehow shuffle the deck into at least one form of color and suit separation, be it new deck order or another very visual sorted order. 4. There being at least one good DVD with tricks available, since I am not a strong reader. This may or may not be the case with several different stacks. I'm not going to buy a half dozen different products in order to choose one if I don't have to. For instance the Ortiz stack I have never heard of at all before reading this thread. Further more I have done several searches for word combinations such as "which stack" in order to find these supposedly overwhelmingly many threads but I haven't found any that answer my (stupidly amateurish) questions.
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