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[/quote][quote]On 2006-09-13 19:30, Paulo Cabrita wrote:
I do not believe!
No way!
I just believe in this life, other, after no body know...nothing that science cannot explain!When we ready a lot of information about science phenomenons we get other vision about life!

Let´s gona enjoy the life!

True, nobody knows but we many accept that we were non exsistent before this life so I say why not exsist after this life (anything that can happen once can happen again).
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Irossall,
I accept others ideias but nobody died and came back alive to tell how is other life...man has fear of the death creating the fancies to lose fears...But I accept others opinions, and this is mine I live with that and I´m very happy.Look for the talibans they love the death... and look what they do because they have his vision for the life...

Each one lives with its vision and make his life in what they believe.
Regards my friend
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What about The Easter Bunny - and The Tooth Fairy?

As for John Edwards I thought he was a mediocre Stallone impersonator doing a comedy routine when I first saw him - he is creepy - I'll give him that.

I couldn't watch more than 5 minutes - it's just so cynical and heartless - but if anyone has watched, I have a question.

Are the people who've 'passed' ('passed' my fat bottom - they're dead you idiot) are they always loving and reassuring or does he occasionally strike some of my relatives? You would recognise my relatives because they would be complaining it was boring there and they wanted to come back and roll about drunk in the gutter again.

When he asked if they had any words of encouragement for me, they would

a/ swear a lot
b/ ask me to send money because they were down on their luck
c/ insist I get a real job because entertainment is for losers

PS: This post has inspired me - I am leaving entertainment to become a con artist - sorry, I mean medium.
The voices I hear will be very entertaining - but not suitable for general viewing.
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I have sought after real magic ever since I became interested in conjuring over 75 years ago. I have searched for it first in books and people and, of course, found many claims of its existence. I investigated, and in some cases literally gave myself to, all of the principle religions of the world, as well as many of the more esoteric ones. I sought out philosophers, wise men (and wise women), holy men, gurus, jadugars (jaduwallahs) and magicians, all around the world over a period of many years, in almost 100 countries, but never once have I seen real magic. In India, as many magicians had done before me, I advertised an offer of a substantial reward to anyone who could lead me to a performance of the Indian Rope Trick, done in the commonly accepted manner. No takers. I'd love to see real magic, but at this point, I would be willing to wager all of my worldly possessions that I never will. One positive result of my long and persistent search for real magic is that I have seen a great deal of this wonderful world we live in and the kind and hospitable people who make up the great majority who inhabit it - and I've had the pleasure of seeing a lot of great conjurors perform their "magic". As Jean-Eugene Robert-Houdin so succinctly stated, "A magician is an actor playing the part of a magician". In my opinion, there are no others, now nor in the past.
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On 2006-09-12 10:37, Doug Higley wrote:
Nope.

I only believe in Life.

Oh...and Santa.


Doug Higley IS Santa

I don't necessarily believe, but I think it's rediculous to discredit it's existence. The world was the center of the universe at one point. It was also flat. The way to get rid of a cold (sneezing) was to bash a whole in ones skull to get rid of the demons (god bless you).

Mathematics proves that virutually anything is possible. The patterns that exist in this world are so constant that to think it just happened incidently on the off shoot chance that everything had the perfect conditions to let life and all that has happened since its first spark take place and ONLY on this one planet in this seemingly endless universe is a helluvalot crazier than believing in the unprovable.

But that's just one mans opinion.
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Yes.
I mean...
No.
I mean...
Real Majik?
Not yet.
Why do you ask?
Will you walk into my parlour? said the Spider to the Fly,
Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I've a many curious things to show when you are there.

Oh no, no, said the little Fly, to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair
-can ne'er come down again.
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On 2006-09-12 10:32, Timothy Drake wrote:
I also believe there is good and bad karma.


An easy trap you can fall into is the belief that karma is good or bad. You might subscribe to the notion that "good karma" is like good luck, while "bad karma" is bad luck. These beliefs, while hinting at the truth, are misleading and confusing at best. The doctrine of karma states that one's state in this life is a result of actions (both physical and mental) in past incarnations, and action in this life can determine one's destiny in future incarnations. Karma is a natural, impersonal law of moral cause and effect and has no connection with the idea of a supreme power that decrees punishment or forgiveness of sins. Karmic law is universally applicable, and only those who have attained liberation from rebirth, called mukti (or moksha) or nirvana, can transcend it.

Karma is the universal law of consequences. Any experience of a certain basic intensity will record and generate the necessity for a balance of that intensity. Karma means "(the result of) action", generally taken as a term that comprises the entire cycle of cause and effect. We first take an intent and follow it up with action in the form of thought, speaking to others, planning and execution. According to the Theory of Karma - every action taken to achieve a result or profit (fruit of action) leaves a trace or a karmic residue behind it. It is this residue that keeps accumulating and takes away one's well-being and freedom. Only a person who acts to produce results without worrying about profit (Nishkama Karma or Niskarma) does not accumulate such a Karmic residue. Such action normally comes from love or pure passion. Karma is a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. Individuals go through certain processes and accompanying experiences throughout their lives which they have chosen, and those would be based on the results of their own creations: "karma". Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward. Karma simply deals with what is. The effects of all deeds actively create past, present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to others. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well. Any action whose motive is other than love or passion begins a process of psychological compensation which is difficult to complete. For example, if we helped somebody when we did not want to, then no amount of compensation helps later as we always feel incomplete. Any incomplete action somehow begins to consume a part of our free attention on how to get rewarded. During our journey of life we accumulate considerable Karmic residue and this depletes our free attention significantly. Lack of free attention means lack of intelligence. Many of the bad situations we get into in life are as a result of a lack of intelligence and attention..

With a decision a human being declares a function that is reused under similar conditions until the decision is revised and the Karma is released. An untrained human usually has several thousands of those functions that represent default actions for every possible situation we have ever encountered. In new situations, we base our decisions on the already made ones, causing our Karma to extend. If the outcome of the decision is a desirable one we call it "good Karma" otherwise it is "bad Karma". In any case is Karma something that limits our possible actions to an automated reaction and should be generally treated as "bad".
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"Well, I believe in the soul . . . The small of a woman's back. The hanging curveball. High fiber. Good scotch. That the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a Constitutional Amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas eve. And I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."

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All no's to the first post's question. For those who claim to have such powers or abilities - prove it - under my conditions. What can I say, I am a science major and want some proof of this stuff, and I have never seen any. It was sad when I went up to the local pyschic lady and showed her a few tricks - she was amazed and said that that should be impossible - go figure.
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I believe real magic comes from the heart. Its who you truly are inside that makes you a real magician! And not the so called magician that mimics every thing he sees. But one who can use his own interlect to create his own magic by using what God has given him and not someone else. Find your calling and live real magic for the rest of your life. Paul T
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On 2006-12-05 10:18, TWOCAN wrote:
...own interlect to create his own magic by using what God has given him and not someone else. Find your calling and live real magic for the rest of your life.


As I understand it, magic(K) <- notice the K, is about WILL. YOUR WILL.

Let's leave off any questions about which God(s) are involved in this stuff.

Lots of things depend on what you find comfortable, useful and what sort of internal model you live inside as you deal with existance.
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Years ago, I delivered pizza. One night I delivered to the home of a local "Psychic reader" and when she came to the door, I handed her the pizza and she asked me "What's the total again"?

I swear it happened. I couldn't make that up.

Phil
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Why in the world do you think that those with a psychic gift are 'Omniscient" ? Straw man much?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omniscient
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Resurrecting a nine year old thread for this?

Wow!
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On Sep 12, 2006, ssucahyo wrote:
Fellows, please let me know how many of you believe in Real Magick??

No.
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On Aug 10, 2015, Kabbalah wrote:
Resurrecting a nine year old thread for this?

Wow!


What's just as amazing is that no one in this ancient thread equated psychic ability with being omniscient. (I did a complete word search on both pages. Prior to Slim, NO ONE even used the word "omniscient.") Nor did anyone even obliquely refer to anything resembling omniscience.

The only straw man, therefore, is the one Slim built himself. As is usually the case.
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The only Real Magick I believe in is necromancy. Forum necromancy.
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On Dec 6, 2006, freefallillusion1 wrote:
Years ago, I delivered pizza. One night I delivered to the home of a local "Psychic reader" and when she came to the door, I handed her the pizza and she asked me "What's the total again"?

I swear it happened. I couldn't make that up.

Phil

Look BOB .. here is the Straw Man.... This guy thinks that "Psychic Readers" should know how much the final total of their pizza should be .. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Pseudo-skeptics almost always fall into this transParent trap (Get it?)
It proves they assume a psychic reader is supposed to be omniscient...Smile
Smile Smile Smile
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On Aug 10, 2015, Slim King wrote:
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On Dec 6, 2006, freefallillusion1 wrote:
Years ago, I delivered pizza. One night I delivered to the home of a local "Psychic reader" and when she came to the door, I handed her the pizza and she asked me "What's the total again"?

I swear it happened. I couldn't make that up.

Phil

Look BOB .. here is the Straw Man.... This guy thinks that "Psychic Readers" should know how much the final total of their pizza should be ..

Did you miss the word, "again"?

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Pseudo-skeptics almost always fall into this transParent trap . . . .

As opposed to real skeptics?

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On Aug 10, 2015, Slim King wrote:
It proves they assume a psychic reader is supposed to be omniscient...Smile

Not only does it not prove it, it doesn't even offer evidence for it.

Not only have you erroneously extrapolated from a specific observation to a general conclusion, you've misunderstood the specific observation.

I hope that your livelihood doesn't depend on your analytical / synthesis skills.
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