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Bill Lhotta Veteran user on top of a 14000' mountain in Colorado 357 Posts 
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Aaron Smith was suppose to be putting together a PK Ring DVD but I haven't heard any word on its progress or a potential release date. Maybe Aaron will respond back and give us an update.
One nice routine you can perform is Nicholas Night's Enigma which is still available from MagicSmith. Cheers! ** Bill ** |
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chrismatt Special user Why would you read any of my 978 Posts
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On 2006-12-05 14:54, theoriginalman wrote: I take it you've had a spectator mark a shimmed quarter and insert it and a number of unmarked quarters into separate coin envelopes, after which you've "divined" which envelope contains S's marked coin. (BTW, you might want to copper-plate a bunch of steel pennies made during WWII for this.) How about trying to pass a bottle cap into a soda bottle? (A shimmed cap is already inside the soda bottle, but is hidden by the label thanks to your ring. A duplicate cap is "vanished" as the hidden one is made to appear inside the bottle.) Or how about trying to pass a coin through a glass table? (A shimmed or magnetic coin hidden underneath the glass table is brought into play thanks to your ring.) Run a search for "Kurotsuke" to find a wonderful "lie detector" or divination routine using your ring. A seemingly "impromptu" Chop Cup routine with a rolled up dollar bill (with a hidden ball magnet inside) and almost any opaque cup is made simple with your ring. The possibilities with your PK Ring are legion. Good luck! CM
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Expertmagician Inner circle 2478 Posts
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It is my understanding that the stronger the magnet (ie. N50-N54) the more brittle the material is.
This has 2 consiquences: 1) The ring is harder to manufacture or you sacrafice on wearing a silly thick wedding band. 2) More importantly, since wedding bands shouuld be relatively thin, all you need is to bang the ring while wearing it and it will crack. Over time, I am sure technology will improve 
Here's to mutual attraction
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LegendaryEgos Elite user Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 491 Posts
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I just got a Blacks Magic PK Ring as I lost my old style Wizards PK ring and I am more than satisfied. I mean how can you beat this ring? It looks almost exactly like my wedding band (just a little bigger) And the color looks perfect (I got gold) The strength is great and is there any better 100% satisfaction guarentee on the market for anything? I mean if you break it, they replace it. If you gain or lose weight and it doesn't fit, they replace it with the right size. And did I mention this was a lifetime guarentee? Also if you want to return it for a refund you have 1 year no questions asked!! I got mine for $29.50 at Blacks Magic website and for all that you get, I would have paid $89.95! They will also give you a brand new Blacks PK ring for 9.99 if you trade in your old Wizard PK ring! If only I could have found mine!!!
Bravo Blacks Magic! Keep up the great work! Marc |
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tpax Elite user Columbia, Maryland 443 Posts
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I have a gold Blacks PK ring. It looks just like a wedding ring. I can't compare strength to other rings as this is the only one I've bought and I'm happy with it. I had considered some of the others but didn't like the way they looked.
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts
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I just bought a Vortex ring this weekend, and quite frankly, I found it to be much stronger than the Wizard PK ring, which I passed on before at my local brick'n'mortar shop. (Magic Sojourn in Bristol, PA)
Lhotta, in your strength comparisons, did you take into account the fact that the Vortex's poles are aligned through it's curvature rather than through it's thickness, which is typically how the other rings are polarized ? That would make for a dramatic difference, and in fact could explain the large discrepancy in your findings posted here. Simply put, there's no way the Vortex is that much weaker than the other rings. I think a "rematch" is in order. Instead of trying to pick up an item with your finger parallel to the item (and thus the ring is perpendicular), try taking the ring off and laying it down on the item, then pick it up using the ring (and some pliers or something). I think you'll be surprised. If that seems a "useless" way to align the poles, by the way, it's not. You simply angle your finger differently, and there are many ways to "approach" an item, and many different ways you might need the magnetic field to interact with an item. I suggested this method of testing because it was the most simple.
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Bill Lhotta Veteran user on top of a 14000' mountain in Colorado 357 Posts
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On 2006-12-11 00:09, Mystician wrote: I did not consider the polarization because I don't utilize the PK rings in that configuration. All my applications pick up items at a 90 degree angle to the ring. I understand there is a Vortex II ring coming out soon which is suppose to be more powerful, and Aaron has promised to ship me one so I can evaluate it and post my results to this thread. Cheers! ** Bill ** |
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Robert Apodaca Special user 504 Posts
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Hey everyone, I was wondering if it is practical to wear these PK Rings 24/7. If I'm going to buy one I will want to wear it 24/7 so that it will be like total impromptu.
Do you guys wear your rings on you all the time? Is there a risk of breaking them or them not working anymore? |
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Bill Lhotta Veteran user on top of a 14000' mountain in Colorado 357 Posts
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Your biggest risk is probably breakage. All the PK rings are somewhat fragile so if you plan on wearing it 24/7 you will probably bang it enough to break it sooner or later.
Some folks will try to convince you the ring will deactivate all your credit cards unless kept at a safe distance of at least 3 feet. I performed some testing about 3 months ago and found this not to be true. You can see my post with the specific results here Cheers! ** Bill ** |
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1990 Posts
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Yeah, umm, exactly what tricks doesn't the ring adhere to something at or near 90 degrees???
I can't think of any... Quote: On 2006-12-11 13:44, Lhotta wrote:
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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Robert Apodaca Special user 504 Posts
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Hmmmm I really don't want to break the PK Ring. Isn't there a gurantee if it breaks you get another one? Which provides does this?
Does anyone where their ring 24/7? My family and friends would probably find it very suspicious that I only wear a ring when I perform. |
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hctlam New user 52 Posts
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I agree that it's suspicious to wear the ring only when one performs, however, it's very easy to damage credit cards if the ring is wear all day long.
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Robert Apodaca Special user 504 Posts
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I thought Lhotta just said that it did not damage his Credit cards............hmmmmm don't know what to believe.
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xformer7 Veteran user Central NJ 309 Posts
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On 2006-12-11 23:40, Drizz wrote: I recall an episode of "MythBusters" on the Discovery Channel where they ran credit cards through magnets of varying strength. Don't remember the specifics, but the long and short of it was that it takes a whole lot to make the card unreadable....well more than contact with a PK ring. Lhotta confirms. |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts
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Hi jclark,
Just wondering how long the Blacks PK rings last, how long do they keep their potency? Just wondering. Also, what exactly does the "PK" stand for? Thanks. -MB
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Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts
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I think it's safe to wear the ring 24/7, as xformer7 pointed out, it takes an awful lot of gauss to ruin a credit card strip. The main consideration is the ring's finish. I can't speak for any ring other than the one I own, and the vortex claims that it's not merely electroplated, and so should last longer. We'll see, as time will tell (it's still too new for me to know right now).
There are applications where you don't approach the item at 90 degrees with your finger,if you bend your fingers, and bring your hand done in a natural manner, you'll find the "edge" of the ring in contact with the item, and that's where it's (vortex) real power lies. (I'm pretty sure I have the V1, not the VII.) It's also easy to bring your hand down at 90 degrees, and still let the item attach to the edge of the ring - my point was that in conducting a rigid sort of comparison test, it has to be done fairly.
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hctlam New user 52 Posts
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I have credit cards damaged by PK ring, but it's long time ago. I am happy to know that these two things can get along together now.
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Jaz2005 Veteran user I wish I had time to get more than 339 Posts
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Hi Guys,
I wear my Wizard PK Ring all the time and I know JC is always wearing one of the Blacks Rings. With normal use, they do not damage credit cards, cellular telephones or watches. Now if you were to rub the ring several times vigorously along the magnetic strip of you credit card you may well disrupt the magnetic encoding. However if you throw a brick at your car window you may well break it. In other words, handling those items with the hand on which you wear your PK ring, will have no damaging effect on them whatsoever. With regard to breakage etc. we will replace any Wizard PK ring broken under any circumstances in line with the lifetime warranty on our Documentation. We will also replace any ring for an alternative size from our range if your ring does not fit your finger. All we ask is that you return the product and pay both the inbound and outbound postage and packing charge. In recent months, we have had several VORTEX type rings returned to us which were sold to end users as Wizard PK Rings complete with photocopies of our Instuctions. I know that JC has also had a similar problem and like us, swapped them out for his own product see here http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......;forum=4 Hope this helps and seasons greetings to all Café customers Jaz |
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts
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Mb...they should keep their strength a long...long time. As long as it is not stricken voilently in the presence of a strong magnetic field in which case it will most likely break anyway. The PK stands for psycho kinetic.
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Robert Apodaca Special user 504 Posts
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On 2006-12-14 13:09, Jaz2005 wrote: Thnks for your insight. Does that warranty extend to all reatailers (say Ellusionist) or do I have to buy it from a specific site? |
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