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DrK New user 3 Posts |
Any comments on the relative merits of Paul Cummins and Brad Burt's DVDs on the side steal. Recently there have been many good reviews of the Cummins DVD but I haven't found much on Burts (I have other material by him that's good). The Burt one seems to cover a broader range of material.
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Jeff Inner circle Orlando, FL 1238 Posts |
Drk, you can't learn the Side Steal from a better teacher than Paul Cummins. The DVD included 6 seperate handling for Marlo's Deliberate Side Steal. This is the best source to learn the Side Steal.
disclosure: I filmed and created Paul's DVD on the Side Steal but I still think it's the best source and Pauls the best teacher. Jeff Pierce
Available for order now:
http://www.thecardwarptour.com See new, used, and collectable magic and books for sale at: http://www.jeffpiercemagic.com |
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Paul Sherman Inner circle Arlington, VA 1511 Posts |
I haven't seen Brad's DVD, but I give Paul's DVD my highest recommendation. I was fortunate enough to learn the real work on the Side Steal from Paul in person while I was still living in Florida. Thanks to his instruction, I have a card control that I can confidently perform surrounded without fear of detection. Everything that he taught me about the move is on the DVD.
Again, not having seen the Burt DVD, I can't compare the breadth of the material. However, as Jeff mentions, Paul teaches several applications of the basic Deliberate Side Steal technique that really demonstrate the move's versatility. I can assure you that if you get Paul's DVD and put in the work it takes to master the move, you'll never regret it.
"The finished card expert considers nothing too trivial that in any way contributes to his success..." Erdnase
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MField2000 Special user Hastings, East Sussex, England 590 Posts |
Paul Cummins is the Master of the Side Steal.
His video is excellent. Matt Field |
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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2983 Posts |
I haven't seen Brad's work, but I have seen Paul many times. Paul is a great teacher and a real master of the side steal. There's also a detailed description by Paul on the Genii forum at:
http://geniimagazine.com/forum/cgi-bin/u......0#000001 Mike
Mike Powers
http://www.mallofmagic.com |
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joesilver New user 73 Posts |
I've been working with Paul's DVD for a month or so, and it is fantastic. I suggest taking a look at Marlo's Expert at the Card Table first, and using Paul's DVD after obtaining the fundamentals.
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Paul Sherman Inner circle Arlington, VA 1511 Posts |
Quick correction, that would be Marlo's "Side Steal" from his "Revolutionary Card Technique" series.
"The finished card expert considers nothing too trivial that in any way contributes to his success..." Erdnase
some youtube videos |
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
Also a vote for Paul Cummins Side Steal Declassified. This move, which had eluded me for for years was finally within my reach. A definite must buy!
Best, Vlad |
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DrK New user 3 Posts |
Thanks for all the replies. I guess I did expect a large vote for Paul Cummins - and so I will buy his DVD.
It would still be interesting to get a reply from anyone who has seen Brad Burt's. Thanks again - I'll let you know my progress after viewing Paul Cummins. |
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gamma105 Regular user City of Evil 150 Posts |
I'm definitely going to pick up the Paul Cummins DVD then!! Although I have Marlo's side steal pamphlet, I can never get it correctly thanks guys!
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Paul Sherman Inner circle Arlington, VA 1511 Posts |
Order it from Paul directly at http://www.fasdiu.com
"The finished card expert considers nothing too trivial that in any way contributes to his success..." Erdnase
some youtube videos |
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John Heggie Inner circle Huntersville, NC 1805 Posts |
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On 2006-09-26 10:33, joesilver wrote: JoeSilver, Is Marlo's "Expert at the card table" on DVD or just in text? Thanks, John |
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Paul Sherman Inner circle Arlington, VA 1511 Posts |
The text he was referring to is actually "Revolutionary Card Technique". It's not on DVD. The collected volume is out of print, but the individual chapters (they were originally sold as separate booklets) are easy to track down. If you're interested, the one that covers the side steal is called, appropriately enough, "Side Steal".
"The finished card expert considers nothing too trivial that in any way contributes to his success..." Erdnase
some youtube videos |
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clamon86 Special user 508 Posts |
Paul cummins dvd is to good. He shoes a normally bad angle for the side steal and he still does it amazing. Its very smooth and natural. Seeing his side steal changed some of my opinions of the pass.
that's how good it is |
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foolsnobody Special user Buffalo, NY 843 Posts |
Is it possible that Brad Burt teaches the classical side steal, as contrasted with the deliberate side steal, better than Paul? I haven't seen either DVD myself; just wondering since everybody seems to be familiar with Paul's, and no one with Brad's...is it because Brad is considerably older? <ducking> My guess is they're both good in different ways...do either of them go into the side SLIP (Malini) vs the side STEAL (Leipzig), the effect of hand breadth, etc.? (For deliberate steal Paul wins no contest, from what I gather.)
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theronmagic New user 87 Posts |
I learned the side stele from Paul's DVD. It not only gives you a great explanation of the move, but he also gives you 6 functional ways to use it. It is worth every penny.
Magically, Theron |
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joesilver New user 73 Posts |
John Heggie,
As several kind folks have pointed out, I gave the wrong book title. It is, in fact, Revolutionary Card Technique, and it's wonderful. You may be able to find a used copy. It would be well worth the effort. Dan |
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Justin R Veteran user 303 Posts |
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On 2006-09-28 04:22, joesilver wrote: I thought I read on here somewhere that it was going to reprinted soon. Does anybody else have any more info on that? |
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mortonch New user 93 Posts |
I don't actually have either, and the side steal is a move that I have not had the time to practice (or more acurately the money to invest in a good learning source.) I have however found out what is on brads side steal dvd and posted this below. Although I don't have the side steal dvd I have brads pass dvd and have found it to be most helpful. I can therefore vouch for the fact that Brad is a good teacher.
It would be nice to hear from someone that owns the side steal and more dvd though Segment 1 - Introduction Segment 2 - Palming and Replacement technique, Taking a Break from A Peak Segment 3 - The Side Steal Segment 4 - The Side Steal Variation Segment 5 - Card Replacements(Holding Out the Card, Hold Out Gestures) Segment 6 - Side Steal Routines (Miracle Card, At Any Number) Segment 7 - Side Steal Crimp Discovery Segment 8 - Lunceford C.C. Deck with Prediction Segment 9 - Color Changes(Side Steal Change, Erdnase Change,Push-Pull Change, Snap Change, Brad's Color Change Routine) Segment 10 - Routine Explanation
-Chris-
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ggarcia Veteran user San Antonio Tx 395 Posts |
I bought brads side steal video when it first came out and it is fantastic. I loved it then and still love it today. I havent seen pauls so I couldn't compare the two. But I have seen paul do the side steal in person and it is flawless.
I don't think anyone would go wrong with either of them. |
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