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Everybody says that spectators will not do anything against their will while they are in hypnosis/trance state. So, how did this happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwthqRJ1K......;search=
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And while your at it, can someone explain why ANYONE watches "Two and a Half Men"?
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Look up a guy named Annemann. Then look up, in the psychology section, Stanley Milgram.

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I have read Milgram's study, and I have many of Annemann's books. Can you be more specific, please?
Milgram speaks of obeying an authority, but Derren was clearly approaching strangers on the street who didn't know him.
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Or was he?

We don't know that for sure...

We only know what he wants us to see..
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Suppose he knew that was Derren Brown. Why would he give him his personal belongings? We see, CLEARLY, that it wasn't set up, and it was not a part of a mentalism piece that was set ahead with the spectator (he was confused to give Derren his things, he wasn't relaxed). If it was a set up, why would the guy run after Derren to claim his items?

So, it's not so obvious after all.
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The subject was Hypnotized throughout the entire sequence.
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I can only think of waking hypnosis, since Derren didn't emerge him from it. Something that he usually does to his hypnotized spectators.
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If it was a set up, why would the guy run after Derren to claim his items?


Maybe that was part of the set up?

Just a thought. Smile
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Oh, c'mon people...you actually buy that as real? If a guy could actually pull that off, they'd be retired in about 6 weeks and have 3 hot strippers following them around. Then again, if they can just find the kind of people that would buy into a video like that as real....hmmmm... Hey guys, I'm having a party next month where you bring as much money as you can, and I will guarantee that you leave the party with no more than 3 times what you came with!
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So you're saying this was all set-up? Smile

What Derren was doing was a little more sophisticated than just asking them for their stuff. You can see a variant of the handshake induction taking place for starters.
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The original question, posed by Hypnotize, was about people doing things against their will. Make the assumption all was as presented here: He FREELY gave the objects of his FREE will....
He didn't understand why, and questioned his own behavior, but did nothing against his WILL; only something irrational. A big difference between the two.
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Annemann's most famous principle involved 13 people... to accomplish something...

Milgram's study was on social compliance to authority. Connect the dots.

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I reckon they were hypnotised before the filming, and the shot of him explaining that had a happened was edited.

I don't think it's possible, based upon what I saw, to do that.
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Perhaps the subject was just released from the "Shrink Tank". Smile
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Finish this quote:

"If it takes thirteen people to..."

Annemann said it. Apply liberally to this situation.

How much more obvious do I have to BE about this?!

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Give 'em ****, Lee!
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Lee,

Unfortunately, you are only being obvious to those who already know of what you speak. To the others, your quite obtuse. NOT your fault, mind you.

Heck, I could argue that those who fall for the routine and believe it is real as spectators are in a sort of trance themselves, but why muddle the issue?

Lee is dead on accurate here, people.
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Sock it to 'em, Daniel!
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I am a VERY absent-minded person who takes great joy in helping others. This would totally work on me if done by a pro like Darren, and my wife agrees. After studying hypnosis, I have realized that I spent about half of my waking hours under light trance anyway. In the situation on the video, I would be so focused on helping him along with his pacing and leading, I am quit confident I would just hand it over.

But, please, don't try it! lol

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