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totoybbb New user 38 Posts 
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Sinha,
I love the convincing GUN control by The Godfather. It cannot be detected at all at the right angles. With a few extra moves, your problem will be solve. There are a lot of uses for The Godfathers move. Thanks a lot Vinz. TOTOY
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James F Inner circle Atlanta 1096 Posts
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I would use a pass or the ambitious riser for this.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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What does a Pass or a riser have to do with the the topic...
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Irtaza Elite user & Basketballer Ontario,Canada 458 Posts
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As soon as the cards pushed into the deck you could just do a pass.
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Stanyon Inner circle Landrum, S.C. by way of Chicago 3433 Posts
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Vinnie,
Your "Convincing Gun Control" is a 'ting a beauty! I've been playing with it for the last couple a days and all I can say is WOW! Youse new guys should kiss 'da Godfather's ring for him bein' willin' ta send youse 'da handlin' fa' free!! JMHO Cheers! 
Stanyon
aka Steve Taylor "Every move a move!" "If you've enjoyed my performance half as much as I've enjoyed performing for you, then you've enjoyed it twice as much as me!" |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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Stanyon thank you for your support.If the new guys do not want to see it Oh well their loss,,,,,,,,,,,,
Irtza writes as soon as the card is poushed into to the deck yiu can do a pass.... yes you could also do a double undercut a over hand shuffle ect ect,,,,that is not the point, with my control the spectator pushes the card into the pack and then he can turn over the top card and it is on top a pass will not do this..... the godfather |
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Dorian Rhodell Inner circle San Francisco, CA. 1633 Posts
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On 2006-10-27 16:46, vinsmagic wrote: Generally speaking, you are correct. But there are types of passes that will most definitely accomplish this. Best, Dorian Rhodell |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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General speaking you are also correct, but placing a pack on the table with the selected card out jogged and having the spectator push the card into the pack and then turn the top cad over,
I have never seen this done witha pass but I am open for any suggestions |
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts
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Karbonkid mentions 'Topper Tack'.
I'm not familiar with this but if it involves the Topper move it may be worth looking into. |
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Dorian Rhodell Inner circle San Francisco, CA. 1633 Posts
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On 2006-10-26 13:09, Utkarsh Sinha wrote: So basically, one of three things must happen in order for this to happen. The card that is outjogged must be controlled, packets have to switch in order to bring the card to the desired location, or the card has to be switched. Knowing that, all you have to do is pick which one is going to work the best. Based on what you described, Raise Rise would work perfect for this. In all honesty it is not going to matter what method you use as long as the audience is thouroughly convinced that the card was actually put in the middle and instantly it was on top. In the end, that is all that is going to matter. Best, Dorian Rhodell |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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Dorian you are correct in the end it does not matter which control you use as long as the end result places the card on top
now that said it is my control that I was offering to anyone who might be interesed in learning it. of course there are many ways to do it but none use my technique vinny |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts
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On 2006-10-27 16:50, Dorian Rhodell wrote: I totally agree with you too Dorian. As a matter of fact I too have a control that achieves this as well. I have only showed it to a very very few including Vinny. The difference between Vinny's control and the rest of the lot is not not only the move, but the magician himself. Here is a very generous man offering a free gift. That free gift happens to be one of the most convincing controls I've seen. It also happen to fit the qualities of the move needed in the original post! Vinny, thanks for allowing me to be one of the first to see and learn the control. Sure there may be Gazzilion cotrols out there, but this one of yours is a keeper in my book. Rannie Raymundo aka The Boss aka THe Manila Enforcer
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Irtaza Elite user & Basketballer Ontario,Canada 458 Posts
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The pass is more direct than a double undercut, in the pass it looks like you just return the card back and do nothing other than square the deck. Anyway, I totally agree with Dorian that the ambitious riser move would be perfect for this type of control.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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That depends on who is doing the pass, and how many people can pull off the ambitious riser?????????
We are not talking about returning a card to the pack. A ard it touched,ad it is out jogged, it is pushed into the pack only to found on the top/ why would anyone use a pass when a only one card needs to be shifted????.. |
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Tacman New user 8 Posts
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From the original post I seems to me that he is asking for a Raise Rise or similar type control. The outjogged card visually moves up the deck and finishes outjogged on the top.
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Irtaza Elite user & Basketballer Ontario,Canada 458 Posts
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That's what I thought he asked, and I mentioned to do the pass before with the card outjogged diagonally, an idea of Latta's.
vinny, if a magician can do the pass deceptively in the eyes of the laymen, why shouldnt they do it? It will be just 1 step for them do do(well several but combined into 1) and its done. |
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts
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It might just be what a magician needs to go through to be able to do it deceptively.
The Pass is good, I learned it and never use it I just received the Gun Control Demo from The Godfather and not only is it a good move, it also has other principals that I think are good to explore. And when folk speak of Vinny's generosity they are not embellishing . He is free with his ideas and they are worthy of note. This Gun Control will do what I understood the original poster wanted to accomplish. If not, a pass or anything else I know of will work. We must either just poke the audience in the eye so they cant see what we do or use a Svengali deck...... OR maybe use the "Gun Control", as you raise the pack from horizontal to vertical secretly push the out-jogged card in as you out-jog the top card showing the pips of the selected card. Lower the deck back to horizontal showing the card visually moved to the top, never leaving the out-jogged position..... Maybe that would be a good combination of methods.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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sinnead zenun Elite user Mt. Makiling 408 Posts
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Sinha,
have you checked the raise rise? it's not a bad idea to combine the convincing gun control then do raise rise in your Ambitious card routine. we must be thankful the godfather shared his convincing gun control and was always willing to help. thank you vinny for sharing an excellent move... |
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Irtaza Elite user & Basketballer Ontario,Canada 458 Posts
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I agree, vinny has definately been generous in sharing his control, it is a wonderful control
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totoybbb New user 38 Posts
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Vinny's convincing gun control is a very useful control. I think it can be used for many routines. And if combined with other moves, it can create a whole lot of possibilities. Thanks Vinny for sharing...
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