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Jonathanmc
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I got McBride's manipulation series. I did all the warping then pressing then powdering the cards but now they are too buttery to do most of the slights. Does the warping only need to be done on standard cards. I was using a Nielson palming deck.

Thanks.
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Aww Neilson cards already come pretty much prepared already for you. I never have to apply the McBride method to Neilson cards. I use that approach when I am breaking in Bicycle cards or Bees or standard store bought decks. The only thing you may have to do to Neilson cards is add some fanning powder to them and that is about it. Hope this helps.

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Jonathanmc
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Thanks Kyle. I guess I need to get a new deck of nielsons now.
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Not a problem at all. Yeah, you may want to get a new packet of neilsons and in the meantime also get yourself some bicycle decks or Bee decks and use the McBride method on them. This way you can check both of them out and see which works best for you. Hope this helps.

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To be honest... In the imortal words of Neil Foster and Lou Lancaster if you need to powder the cards you are not only a beginner but someone has given you very bad advice.....Cordially,Howard
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But Their oppinion is not finalized my friend. Many of the big pros today like Lance Burton powder their cards. I just spoke with Norm on the phone a few weeks ago and he powders his cards (the thinner version he makes, not the regular cards).

If you have skinny fingers you would want to go with a bridge style card because there skinnier and fit nicely into back palm. If you have fuller fingers you will need to use a poker sized card like a bee. These will just feel more natural in a bigger hand. Do whatever seems right and whatever makes things easier, and ill see you at boomers.

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It really comes down to personal preference and what works best for you as a performer. After all the audience has no idea if you use powder or not nor should they care. Use what ever method works best for you to entertain your audiences in the best way possible.

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On Jeff's dvd he tells you to dump fanning powder in a bag and mix them up.I talked to Jeff about using a SOOZEE faning powder applicator and he said he hates the thing.
Well I love it and the card edges don't get all bent up...30 years and still works great!!

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Card Fanning help...I did a search and this post seemed to most closely fit and I didn't want to start another post on the subject. So here it goes...I am a beginner and have been having a heck of a time with card fanning (using tally-ho power sized deck). I finally picked up some fanning powder and wow, what a difference. The cards now spread out nice and evenly. BUT the problem I am now having has to do with my hands/palm getting in the way. When I spread the cards I can get them spread out to the point that the two opposite cards would make a flat line. I have seen many people able to spread the cards out further than the 180 degree, but my palm gets in the way and hits the corner of the cards. Any suggestions? I don't have the smallest hands in the world, is there something I am doing wrong? Thanks!

PS.. Fanning powder made a huge difference in being able to handle the cards.
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Not sure if this will help or not, but when I do a one-handed fan, my thumb is on thebacks of the cards and my four fingers are on the front or face of the cards. The action of spreading the cards for the one-handed fan allows the thumb to move to the right (from the magician's perspective) as the fingers move more to the left. In a way your hand is forming a fist as the cards will rpead out. because of this, it allows the cards to fan out further as the ends of the cards will arc over and around your pinky finger.

Not sure if this is clear or not, but hope it gives you an idea.

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