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fooksau
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I'm aware there's another thread going on about ambitious card, but I wanted to ask specifically the differences in styles/techniques used on the ACR in these 2 dvds. I recently bought crash course 2 and was thinking about also getting Dary's. Mainly I'd like to know if and how the 2 overlap in technique or if they are completely different approaches? I'm content with CC2 alone if they go over much of the same content.

Thanks in advance.

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I have both.
I learned ACR first from CC2, which I think is a very good DVD. Daryl's Ambitious DVD will teach you more moves than you will ever need. It has been a while since I viewed either one of these DVDs, but as far as I can remember, there probably is some overlap. However, I would recommend getting the Daryl DVD. I use moves that I learned from both DVDs in my ACR routine.

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I have Daryl's DVD but not CC2. I think it's okay but a bit overrated. From looking at the table of conents of CC2, I think there is a fair amount of overlap. More importantly, unless you're going to be doing a very long ACR, a lot of the moves taught duplicate and cancel each other out. You're only going to use one move to set up the effect, for example, so if you have one approach you like, I'd recommend sticking with it. Also, it's not as if Daryl's routine teaches things like the Raise Rise move -- the moves taught are pretty basic ones.

What I would think about is whether or not you like Daryl's Ultimate Ambition gimmick. The DVD teaches you how to make it, but it is time consuming and requires equipment you might not have. If you buy the Ultimate Ambition set, you get the gimmick and a DVD instruction of the whole routine. What you don't get is the "appendix" of additional moves included on the initial DVD. If you like Daryl's closer to the routine -- and it is quite good -- then it might be worth getting the Ultimate Ambition set. Again, I haven't seen CC2, but I have Daryl's and I think one ACR DVD is enough for me.
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I'm not familiar with the Ultimate Ambition gimmick. Would it constitute exposure to let me know what it is/does?
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There are a lot of posts on the Café that talk about it, but, basically... the effect is that you very cleanly and visibly insert the ambitious card into the center of the deck and you tie up the deck with rope or rubber bands. You push the card in and then a moment later, with the deck still tied up, you pull it off the top. Yeah, it's the same ACR effect but it really is done so visibly and cleanly that it is a fooler.

I think Jay Sankey has a gaffless effect that is similar, but I don't know it.

For what it's worth, I bought the Daryl DVD because I wanted all the moves in the appendix. The guy at the magic store was pushing the Ultimate Ambition set on me but I held off because I wanted the complete works on the DVD and didn't think I'd use a gaffed ending for the routine. And, the Ultimate Ambition is a few bucks more. Later, I wondered if I had made a mistake because the Ultimate Ambition gaff is cool and I can't see myself spending the time to try and make it myself. (Again, he does explain it on the first DVD.)
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The difference between Daryl's and CC2 - and I find them both to be excellent, by the way - is essentially the difference between a science text book you'd use in a lecture and a flashy science book you'd buy in a book store.

First, both are good, and you'll learn a lot from both. The textbook is likely to be a bit dryer, but is more time-tested and has more information. The flashy book is likely to be a bit less informative, but streamlines it to the nitty-gritty techniques and is more entertaining.

I don't know if that's enough to base your decision on, but I also think you'll be satisfied purchasing either (or both) of them.

- Seo
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Dear fooksau,
better you buy both of them (CC2 + Daryl ACR DVD), so you have a wide range of variation of moves. since in the CC2 you can find ACR that apply to street magic situation (impromptu) and at Daryl you can find strong variation with gimmicks (close up).
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Save money. Buy Daryl's. It gave you information on how to end impromptuly. CC2 I suppose is okay. But, Daryl's handling is great one and his teaching is also excellent. Definetley cant go wrong with this one.
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Hi there

Just go with Daryl's ACR DVD

His explanation is faboulous

This is also one of my first dvd as well

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I went ahead and downloaded the CC2 dvd. There's enough there to come up with a solid ACR. I'd like to have 1 solid ACR that I can use I don't think it's necessary to have more than 1 version.
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Look at all resources in the development of an ACR, including Dai Vernon's from Stars Of Magic. And please get Tommy Wonder's L&L DVD that has his ACR to ring box. Tommy explains his ACR is really Vernon's and he goes over the psycholgy of the routine. I think without this knowledge, an ACR can never be as strong as it could be. Just my two cents.

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I totally agree with MagicChris, Tommy Wonder routine is amazing, and his presentation is the best I ever seen with a super Kicker ending.
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I might just have to add that to my list.
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