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Malus New user 68 Posts |
Hi everyone. I am a beginner learning magic for more then a year now. And I have been doing some easy card tricks and coin tricks (learn from videos and books like Card College and Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic).
I am kind of interested in Cups and Balls magic, and would like to try cups and balls. But I am just a student and I don't have much money to spend on a set of cups. So I don't want to spend like 200$ on my first set of cups. I would like to use Aluminum cups to start with. And I found that Penguin Magic have these cups (by Bazar de Magia) in their Special Order Catalog : http://www.murphysmagicsupplies.com/cata......lum.html Could you let me know if this is a good set to start with? Or is there a better choice for me? Thank you very much.
Malus.
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts |
I bought those very cups as my first set. About 2 months later I bought the same cup in copper on the advice of a good pro. They indeed did feel much better in handling. You'll spend a few more bucks on the copper but..they're heavier, handle better, sound better and look better(much opinion based there but I think most would agree). But to further confuse you I would have just bought the aluminum down the road anyway to add to my cup addiction. I have since moved on to much pricier cups but I got a lot of mileage out of those Bazaar copper cups. I still use them but I don't touch the aluminium. If you shop around I believe you can get them for $30-$50. I think the copper set with a chop cup can be had for $40..straight normal set for $30-35. Bottom line I'd say...if you are really on a tight budget, get the aluminum if it's all you can afford for awhile, but get the coppers if you can swing the few extra bucks.
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walid ahumada Special user sinaloa, mexico 892 Posts |
Cups from bazar de magia are good. I would get the brass set.
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Malus New user 68 Posts |
Yeah, I was thinking get a set of Penguins Cups later on if I am in to cups. But I am not sure, because I have heard good things about it (like they are cheap but they are like the "copies" of Paul Fox cups) while other dislike it (quality varies?) as well. But I think for now I will just play around with the Aluminum yet for a while. Thank you very much.
Malus.
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Jonton Veteran user New York City 336 Posts |
I had the same question a few months ago, but I decided the purchase the Bazar Copper Cups (amazing price for copper, too). They look and feel amazing, and they have been thrown around quite a bit (dropped on concrete, roughly handled with a hard wooden wand, etc) and they don't show any dents or scratches. I would greatly suggest these cups to anyone who doesn't want to look into a "professional" expensive set yet (these will surely serve me well for years to come).
Good luck with your search, and you've come to the right place. ~Jonathan
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walid ahumada Special user sinaloa, mexico 892 Posts |
To tell you the truth, I still playing with my old aluminun cups, just to see all the scars I had made them over the years.
and I have more newer aluminum sets to let my sons play with them, they are good toys.
“Magic becomes art when it has nothing to hide.” BEN OKRI quote
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
To start with ANY cups are fine. Go for copper or nickle plated next time. Nice weight and feel helps.
The SECRET is to learn the false transfers and load. Start with the Vernon routine, which gives you all you really need to know to get going. Learn to handle the wand well.
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Jonton Veteran user New York City 336 Posts |
To add to what Pete said, I first learned the version from Mark Wilson's book, then later looked into Vernon's. After I saw Gazzo's, I was greatly impressed at the fact that I believe it solves a few of the problems that I encountered with Vernon's routine (if I may be so bold to say that the professors routine had problems). Check out either Gazzo's Street Cups book or DVD (or go with the combo package from penguin, which I suggest for the price). He goes over everything in extensive detail, including the proper way to handle the wand (and, of course, false transfers and loads).
Take from Gazzo's routine what you care to, rearrange it, make it your own, and you've got an amazing start to a classic cups and balls routine. Best of Luck... ~Jonathan
I Came, I Saw, I Conjured
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The only aluminum cups I like are heavy ones, such as the ones Roy Kueppers makes. Most aluminum cups are just too light.
The Bazar Copper cups are very good, and they are reasonably priced.
"The Swatter"
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Christopher Moro Special user 793 Posts |
Someone's back.
Nice hat. |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Thanks. I got it at a garage sale.
"The Swatter"
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Christopher Moro Special user 793 Posts |
Suits you well.
You've turned the other cheek, haven't you? Good to have you back. |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
No, same cheek, just a flipped picture!
Good to be back.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2200 Posts |
When we cut a new block to spin on for cups, we generally spin sets in aluminum to get the feel for the block before we start running the copper, bronze, silver etc. We've always maintained that ah, no one wants aluminum, but always ran off surplus runs of aluminum sets and just stored them. It's hard to justify the cost after polishing due to the labor.
Quite frankly I'm getting tired of looking at all these aluminum cups here, so maybe this will help the beginners out that don't mind aluminum. All the cups are brushed finished inside and out, come with 4 rnt2 crochet balls, rnt2 made drawstring bag, 3 cups and John Mendoza Cups & Balls routine, and a 12" natural ironwood magic wand. To help beginners I'm going to offer these sets at $59.95 plus shipping. The following list of styles are available and are all the same price. Quantity numbers is what we currently have on hand, and the ones marked EOL mean End of Life, meaning after these aluminum sets are gone there will be no more available. 6 Jes Squatty 100 Paul Fox (EOL) 100 Monti (EOL) 6 Sisti PM me with any questions, this will hopefully help put some good cups that are just sitting around the shop in the hands of some beginners who want to start with a good set at an affordable price. All cups are spun from 050 aircraft grade aluminum. Jake PS, Great to have Bill Back and gotta love that HAT!
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I could use 3 of those hats.
preferably in silver with gold highlights.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2200 Posts |
I could use 12, so I could do the multiplying cups instead of bottles :O)
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