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Paul Rathbun
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What is the difference between magician's rope and cotton rope that you buy in the store? I just was curious if I can make my own.

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I carry 4 different kinds of rope in my brief case. My answer to you is, there is a perfect rope for every trick. If you tell me what trick you had in mind, I will try to help you. How is that pearl poodle coming, amigo?
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It is hard to find the softer cotton rope in the larger diameter rather than the cotton line that is used often.
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Steve,
Funny you asked, because there is a Magic Café member who sells quality cotton rope of different diameter. I just did a search and couldn't find his web address, but someone reading my post will answer it for us.
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Thanks for the help, all. I guess I just thought magician's rope was cotton rope that had been put in a washing machine to make it softer.
Al, what I'm wanting to use this rope for is Full Circle ring and rope routine, as well as some moves from Fiber Optics.
I haven't bought the beads yet for the pearl poodle, but I plan on it. Thanks.

-Paul
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Cotton line or rope should have a core that can be pulled out that softens it.
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For the Fiber Optics moves/routine I have put together, I have gotten some really nice Italian rope. The stuff feels good and handles like a dream, but it would be very expensive to use for a C&R all the time.

I have to admit that one of my all-time favourite reactions is when I pull the middle off of a rope. The specs go crazy.
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Paul,
If you are going to use rope over and over again, you want quality, pure white rope. I use Daryl's 1/2 inch rope. The 3/8 inch Fun, Inc. rope is also very good, too. Preparing the ends is critical. I like to dip the ends in Elmer's glue, and when the glue gets tacky, roll the ends in your fingers so the ends will be smooth and not lumpy (lumpy sucks). The Elite rope is nice, too, but I don't like flat rope.

Hey SeaDawg,
I never heard of Italian rope. Where do you get it? Please, don't tell me Italy.
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Nope, came thru the Vanishing Rabbit in Calgary. It may very well be their marketing name for a very nice white rope that handles like a dream.

Also, good points on end prep. Fuzzy, ugly ends are distracting, and you want them focused on what you want. I love doing rope for the effects it has.

Simple, beautiful stuff that gets a "How did he do that?"
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There are 3 types of rope I come across:

For no-cut routines, I love the Camirand stage rope. It's got nice weight and white.
I've found nothing better. It's not cheap, but it lasts a long time.

This is the good stuff...

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Frank,
I'm a bit confused. Is Camirand the flat Elite rope or something else? It comes in two sizes, 7 mm and 10 mm. What does that translate to in inches? It is even more expensive than the Daryl rope, too. Daryl gives you about 10 feet for around $5; it is 1/2 inch in diameter and also pure white.
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Yes, that's the Camirand Elite Rope. The 10mm is the "stage" rope.

There's 2.54 cm per inch, and 25.4 mm per inch. So, it's a tad less than 1/2 inch.

It's about pinkie thickness.

I've never seen/held Daryl's rope.
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I've not tried Camirand's, but I've used Daryl's rope for non-C&R and R&R routines. I wouldn't say it's "flat", but it's definitely oblong-ish. I like the feel, but had to get used to it.

For C&R routines, I've tried clothesline, but I think it's too small. I usually use "Magician's Rope" from my local shop.
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Here's one tidbit I'll throw in...

At the hardware store, they've got prepacked 100' foot sections of "rope". It's brightly colored and looks a lot like climbers rope. It's priced at about $7 or $8 for the fill 100'.

It also is a crap product for almost any rope trick. This product I'm speaking of has a nylon "rope" covering, over top of some sort of "rope" filling. You can't burn off the ends to prevent fraying, and the rope itself isn't very pliable or workable.

Now - if you're a street guy and need a rope that'll just be your edge, great stuff. (it's crap, so you won't mind it being trampled)

Otherwise - USE GOOD STUFF, even if it costs a few bucks more!!!

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Al sent me some of Daryl's rope. It's softer than the Camirand rope, but about the same size. I think I prefer the Camirand rope for non-cut routines. Both are very nice.

I think it's just whatever you get used to using.

They are both very good.
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Personally, I use solie braid pro-grade rope which is a mixture of nylon, polyester, and polypropylene. It works great for me. I've been using it for a couple of months now, and I haven't had any problems. And, I get it at a local hardware store.

On a couple of occasions, I've also used Manila rope. It's not the greatest rope to use, but if you are doing a show for ranchers, or farmers, it adds to the show, in my opinion.
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Just bought some Elite rope from Hocus Pocus, 7 mm, but they are flat and not round. I was a little surprise, are people using flat ropes now?
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Yes, apparently so. I never think about it. Until Al spoke about it, I would have never given it a second thought about flat or round.
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I use Daryl's rope. It is the same quality as Elite, but round.

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