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Hello everyone,

I hope this isn't a stupid question. I am a first time user of Mouth Coils. I purchased normal sized (25ft) rainbow ones from Abbotts today and I was looking them over. It seems like there are 2 taped togeather, is this how it is supose to be? And when I go to start the coil, Do I grab from both rolls? I hope someone understands my questions and help.

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Jacob
I've been training these cards since they were small.
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I really do understand your question. When I started with coils, no one told me how to get them going! If you look at the middle part there is a little hump which is white, you want to put your fingers on either side of the hump and just kinda pinch your fingers together and grab the beginning of the white paper. pull up and that should start the coil coming out. I usually pull until I see a color start to emerge and then tear off the white and start with the color part. I usually leave about a 1/4 inch sticking up for an easy start. I hope this helps. I wish I could explain it better!
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They come out together. I like to pull out the center and twist 'em together so I have a good point to grab, don't try to grab it out of the center w/out preparing first.
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Thanks Doodab.

SO I am assuming you leave it taped togeather. I tried grabbing the white of one side (mine did come with directions but I wanted to clearify) and it ripped from the other side. But now I have them both togeather now and can grab them.

Also, when these are placed in the mouth...how do they look...well...wet?
I've been training these cards since they were small.
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That's it, no more help...bunch of ungrateful %@@#%!@#$s.
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Umm, Sorry steve, I didn't see your post untill now. You must have posted while I was typing mine. Thank you for the help aswell.

My question still remains though:

How does the paper coil look after being in your mouth? Wet? Is this bad?
I've been training these cards since they were small.
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Personally, I never pull them out of my mouth. I have other uses. But if you are going to be pulling them from the mouth, you want to load the coil and use it soon after that. Don't load it and wait for saliva to flow Smile. And hold the coil with behind your teeth sort of loosely. You shouldn't have a bunch of wet paper coming out of your mouth then.

One other point (probably not necessary to mention. . . but), once it comes out of your mouth, dispose of it. Don't offer it to any volunteers. I've seen this done by a magician and the kid was a bit "grossed out".
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Like Scott said, I don't pull 'em out of my mouth except for the first couple times. You load then pull if from the mouth. I use it by pulling it out of a kids shirt or from a torn napkin.
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I had a show last night where I had it running out the birthday girl's nose. She thought it was funny but the party had a number of unruly children that the parents refused to supervise and a couple of the boys started grabbing the paper and eating it! I was calling for a parent to come over and do something before someone choked but they just sat there talking to each other. The kid got even more obnoxious as the party progressed. Hitting me, grabbing at my props. I had to stop the show several times to bring order back but never really succeeded. Not to sound rascist here, but I work in a certain area that has there parties at an indoor playground. Most of the people in this area happen to be Persian, Armenian, etc and I find that culture tends not to discipline their child in these situations. They tip fairly well but it is so much more work involved.
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Doodad,
There are some great suggestions to handle this in Seriously silly by David Kaye.

One of the things I like to to in my warm up is introduce the rules "For settin to Sea with the Seadawg". We cover off things like not touching props, How to applaude and cheer, and how to get picked as a volunteer. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure...
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On 2006-10-22 08:52, SeaDawg wrote:
Doodad,
There are some great suggestions to handle this in Seriously silly by David Kaye.



Actually, I have the book cover to cover and enjoy it very much. The situation I was in was something a little different and could not be helped. I am a house magician at an indoor playground in a part of Southern CA that is predominantly a certain culture and having done dozens of shows there I have seen firsthand that the behaviour of these children are directly linked to that culture. I know this may sound rascist but it is a conclusion that I only came upon after a experiencing a lot of imperial evidence. Many shows that I have done with many different cultures have differently behaved children. Does anyone here find this to be true? That certain foreign cultures have raised kids to be loud and obnoxious as possible to get what they want?
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Sure, but that isn't racist at all it is ethnocentric, which is perfectly acceptable.
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On 2006-10-22 20:40, Steve V wrote:
Sure, but that isn't racist at all it is ethnocentric, which is perfectly acceptable.
Steve V


LOL, Steve. Sometimes I'm not sure how to take you. . . but you crack me up Smile
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Thanks, Steve. Always there to help! Anyone else? Is it racist(sorry, ethnocentric) to say that certain cultures raise their kids differently and that some are so undisciplined by their parents due to that culture's teachings that they are almost always tough to handle? Or do I need to be PC and not mention this particular problem? I would like to know what should be discussed here and what shouldn't.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with what you said. If a facts, a fact, then what is the problem? There are different cultures in different societies and all sorts of things are handled in different ways, including child rearing.

While I agree there are certain (limited) things that should be referred to differently, I think having to be politically correct has gone WAY overboard today. It is so bad today, that it affects the way everything is done, said or handled and has gotten past the point of being ridiculous most of the time.

If your short, your short! You're not vertically challenged. Bald? Well...your bald and not folliclely challenged. See just how bad things can, and do, get?

Just my 2 cents. Mark.
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Not wrong at all as it is true. Cultures are different, some keep the kids on a short leash, some let them run amok, some love women, other think of women as one step above a goat.
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To me, it's all about being honest. You don't need to "white-wash" the truth to make it something that it isn't.

If something, an activity for bringing up a child for example, makes someone uncomfortable, then THEY need to look at their own behavior. It is not up to me to word things so they feel better about what they are doing.

As mentioned, the whole PC thing has gotten WAY out of hand.

Mark.
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Oh, I agree. PC is a very intolerant type of speech (despite its insistance to the contrary). But it does pay to be aware of cultural differences, and to take that into account when dealing with people. That does NOT mean that you have to embrace what every person or people group does. It does help us negotiate through some otherwise muddy cultural waters though. As Steven Covey says "Seek first to understand then to be understood". (Actually, I believe that idea goes back a little farther that Steven, but he did popularize the phrase in recent times)
Do not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time you will reap a harvest, if you do not give up. Galatians 6:9
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