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munkywrench
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This may sound cheesy but I can swing cut, swivel cut, false deal, false shuffle, classic two hand palm, one hand top palm, hot shot, half pass, classic pass, charlier cut etc. But I can't do a thumb fan to save my life. Any help would be great.
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Just practice. It should take a day or two to get a decent thumb fan. don't know if this helps, but I always found finger fans much easier. (Using the index finger instead of the tumb) Thumb fans have always felt kinda weird to me...Although after mastering the finger fan the thumb fan is easy. Just play around with the grip the left hand has and the pressure/speed used by the right hand. you'll get it faster than you think.
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Thanks bro.
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No problem...post here or PM if you ever need any help...But Im sure you'll get this just fine after a little experimenting.

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How about a one-handed fan. I can't figure out the mechanics for the life of me. I have several books which purport to give instructions, but am still hopeless. Any tips?
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Just practice. that's the only real way to get good at fans without powder.
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I would say use older cards. If they are not destroyed, older cards seeme to have better grip for fanning.
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On 2006-11-08 15:33, ToasterofDoom wrote:
I would say use older cards. If they are not destroyed, older cards seeme to have better grip for fanning.


I would argue just the opposite. I have a much easier time fanning new cards than old cards.
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Ahhh... but what are older cards?

The best cards I have for fanning are 20 year old bikes. I never did magic with them, so there are no crimps or anything. But they fan BETTER than new powdered cards.

It could be that cards today are manufactured differently than 20 years ago. Nevertheless, my 20 year olds are my best cards for fanning, and I wouldn't dare put powder on them.

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One other thing:

I can produce a beautiful thumb fan, but can't pressure fan for the life of me, though I keep practicing.

But why do I keep practicing? What's the point in pressure fanning if my thumb fan is beautiful? Why must I learn to do it all, rather than sticking to what I do well?

Monkeywrench: can you do another kind of fan relatively well? Are you saying that you can't do a thumb fan, or that you can't do a nice fan at all?

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In my experience, pressure fans are easier to get even than thumb fans.

Also, I like the look of it from the front, how it kind of grows as it forms.
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Jonas, a pressure fan does look quite beautiful as it curls around index finger. I guess my point, which I made badly, is that monkeywrench lists several moves but not a single fan. So I was just curious whether it's the thumb fan which is sticking him up or just fans in general. So I could also ask my question thus: if you can do a beautiful pressure fan, why bother to learn a thumb fan.

I suppose in the Pastboard Frolics forum there are those who want to be able to do it all, and I respect that. I'm not one of them. I read this forum to get tips on improving the few flourishes I want to do. I've not yet bought Jerry's Encyclopedia, and am not likely to anytime soon.

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Perhaps I should post this question elsewhere, but I just can't find where.
Have you guys seen this fan where the cards from a full circle? The thumb fan and pressure fan can only go so far. But I recall seeing a couple of videos on-line, before I knew about the Café, where they would perform this flourish. I loved it but I can't find it anywhere. Would you guys know the name, or where to look? Thanks.
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Yes, search for "naoki ogi" or "360 fan" or "Sanada fan" on youtube/google and you will find some of the fans you're looking for.

unfortunately, these fans are usually un-even and goofy looking by design.
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Thank you very much. I'll look into it.

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On 2008-08-08 15:03, PepeRuizSJ wrote:

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If you can find it, Bill Tarr's "Now You See It, Now You Don't" is a great resource and has some excellent drawings
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I would say that using a brand new deck that has been worn in a bit helps. I'd say perform several waterfall shuffles to break them in a bit. This helps to make them a little less slippery which should help you to learn to fan the cards.

(Incidentally,the thumb fan also lets you do a very quick and easy diminishing card effect).

I'm right handed and find that I have no problems doing a pressure fan with the cards in my left hand and no problems with doing a thumb fan with the cards in my right hand. The other way round and I have problems. This also allows me to do a blank deck type of display or to let an impromptu stooge know a correct card.
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I was going to start a new thread before I came upon this one.

I have a question for you guys. I'm with the OP. I can do cuts false shuffles and various other slieghts. But I can't do a thumb fan that is at least a 3/4 quarter circle fan. The best I can do is a fan that is 1/2 circle that leaves a large clump of cards at the end of the fan. I hope this is clear.

I would appreciate any tips/advice to be able to get a fuller fan.

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Don't feel bad munkey, I can't do any of those things but can do a thumb/finger fan, I still don't think I'm doing the preasure fan correctly to be practicing it, and I can't do a one handed fan period (always looks like I just ribbon spread the cards in one hand, lol).
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