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Hi Edh, if you use fanning powder the cards will stick together better and you can get a larger fan. Also you can try to divide the deck and do smear fans in both hands (with only half a deck it's easier to spread them so they are all visible) finally, try experimenting with different techniques in starting position so that your hands have further to move (i.e. start with the thumb even deeper and further on the left side of the deck, assuming a right handed smear fan)

oh yeah you can also try changing the shape of the fan, it's actually easier to make a larger spread if there is some "bend" in the shape! hard to explain in words but when you push the last part of the smear fan, you will notice it's not quite in line with the rest of the fan.
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The pressure fan is the more difficult of the two. If you can ribbon spread a deck of cards you have the correct feel for/of a thumb fan. The thumb never contacts any card too long and most of the action is at the top of the deck with the fan almost forming itself. Cards that are powdered or that have an excellent finish are an absolute. Dirt and oils from the hands will ruin the ability to thumb fan quickly.
The pressure fan can be done with most decks which is the advantage of that method. It is nearly impossible to describe in print but you must be able to spring cards from the finger side of the hand. The first, or first and second fingers, are placed at the upper right corner and the thumb at the rear of the deck. The bend is mild and you do not literally spring the cards but there is some spring involved. All of the rest is continuous practice and after considerable frustration you will simply begin to fan correctly. If the cards are too stiff it increases the difficulty in learning.
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Bevel the cards before fanning. If you think about a fan as if you're doing a circular spread, it becomes much easier.

For some reason, I can't do a pressure fan though...

On 2006-11-09 05:07, stoneunhinged wrote:
It could be that cards today are manufactured differently than 20 years ago. Nevertheless, my 20 year olds are my best cards for fanning, and I wouldn't dare put powder on them.

Jeff Stone

They are cut differently:

Unlike other cards, the cutting blade used in “traditionally cut” cards starts at the card face and punches through to the back. As a result, a sharp edge is created on the backside of each card and a rounded edge, which facilitates easier card shuffling, is formed on the card’s face.

For over 100 years, traditional card cutting was the norm, but the process was changed about fifteen years ago. The casinos require a traditional cut as does Richard. Traditionally cut cards ensure that card men and magicians can easily interlace the cards to produce crisp, clean shuffles, especially with some of the more intricate shuffling techniques like the one-hand shuffle and the faro shuffle.
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This thread is getting a little old again, but I'll reply my 2c anyway...

On 2009-01-18 17:42, edh wrote:
I have a question for you guys. I'm with the OP. I can do cuts false shuffles and various other slieghts. But I can't do a thumb fan that is at least a 3/4 quarter circle fan. The best I can do is a fan that is 1/2 circle that leaves a large clump of cards at the end of the fan. I hope this is clear.

I would appreciate any tips/advice to be able to get a fuller fan.

I found speed is quite important, too slow and I get clumping.

Also I noticed I roll my thumb, starting with my thumb pretty much pressing on the side of the deck, and finishing with my thumb with the pad nearly 'flat' on the back of the cards - you do the thumb roll as you sweep the cards across (allowing more cards to release).
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