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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
One thing to think about. Prolific and great are not necessarily synonymous.
It's like the fellow who invented Preparation A, Preparation B, Preparation C, Preparation D, Preparation E, Preparation F and Preparation G. Then he stopped. He should have tried once more.
"The Swatter"
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DaiBato Veteran user 310 Posts |
Quote: Very funny; not unlike that hat.
On 2007-03-19 23:33, Bill Palmer wrote: Dai Bato |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The only thing about my hat that isn't funny is trying to get it unstuck.
"The Swatter"
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Marvello Inner circle It's amazing how little I can say in 1612 Posts |
Quote: For the kicker ending do you produce the brain of an elephant from the hat?On 2007-03-23 16:24, Bill Palmer wrote:
Never criticize someone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do criticize them, you will be a mile away from them and you will have their shoes.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
No, but you ought to see my trunk!
"The Swatter"
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DaiBato Veteran user 310 Posts |
Quote: Pardon me while I groan.
On 2007-03-25 18:52, Bill Palmer wrote: Dai Bato |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I see Annemann's name on the list, but I don't think he actually invented all that much. Certainly, he recorded a lot of ideas, but most of them were the ideas of others. For example, his bullet catch was invented by Orville Meyer.
He was a good routiner, though. I have a particular admiration for U.F. Grant. He made his biggest impact during the depression. He was particularly adept at creating inexpensive illusions and stage props. Somehow, I have the feeling (completely undocumented) that he obtained some of his supplies from people who were selling off damaged freight, etc, which might account for some of his odd color schemes.
"The Swatter"
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Annemann invented "Window Envelope" by 1931 and "Flat Rabbit" in 1937. That's all I have on him, although there must be more. My grandson has invented more than that.
Professor Spellbinder
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Chance Wolf Inner circle 2425 Posts |
I know it has been posted once before but in pure respect for the man, I must vote Jack Hughes.
He is one of my heroes in Creation of Magic. I sure wish I could have spent a weekend with him in his shop. Chance
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Annemann was really a thinker and a stylist. He could analyze things and see what would go together well. There are guys who invent things, but they can't see how to make them magical.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts |
That's the problem with this list. Someone may have 'invented' a technique, but might not have implemented it well, or not published it. So who gets the credit? The inventor, the one who created a successful routine around it, or the one who published it so other magicians became aware of the principle and presentation? Surely each one did his part.
Another problem is that many so-called 'innovations' in magic are just old tricks unearthed, or at best slightly modified in their working, application, or presentation. Who gets the credit for a 100-year-old gimmick that was used for coins that has now been applied to cards, for example?
'The central secret of conjuring is a manipulation of interest.' - Henry Hay
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Without obsessing over it, I think it is important to attempt to give credit where credit is due. I am constantly "tweaking" my brief biographies of magical inventors in this attempt, as I acquire new information or new leads about an invention. I know the biographies must contain many errors, but I believe it is important to try to correct those errors for future generations of magicians, especially now that we have been given this fabulous Genii that can search thousands of locations, and allows worldwide communication between magicians in a way never possible in history before.
So it is my self imposed "obligation" to try to sort it out- who invented the technique, when was it first published and by whom, who has variations on the theme, and so on. It may seem like a hopeless task, but just because it is difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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Mr Rubiks Regular user 134 Posts |
Derek Dingle was a prolific inventor when it came to material that "crushed the souls of other magicians". He was one of the best.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Derek also borrowed a lot. There is a lot of John Cornelius material in Derek's work, uncredited.
John Cornelius and Steve Duscheck are two of the most innovative guys I know.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Lester Regular user Scotland. U.K 193 Posts |
Without a doubt, in my book, Len Belcher and Robert Harbin.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27294 Posts |
Who is Len Belcher? Would you offer an example of something of his that we might know of?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
He was a member of the Wolverhampton Circle of Magicians. He created "20th Century in Reverse" which is in Rice's Encyclopedia of Silk Magic.
He is not well known on our side of the pond.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
I have some of Len Belcher's inventions listed in my Brief Biographies of Magic Inventors on my site (20th Century Sympathy, The Mixture, Do-It-Yourself Box, The Temple of Justice, Tombola), but no photo and no dates. If anyone can add that information or any additional inventions of his, I would appreciate it.
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
How about Kevin James?
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Kevin has invented a number of interesting items. He also has collaborated with some of the better thinkers.
Another one is Gaetan Bloom.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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