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One thing to think about. Prolific and great are not necessarily synonymous.

It's like the fellow who invented Preparation A, Preparation B, Preparation C, Preparation D, Preparation E, Preparation F and Preparation G. Then he stopped. He should have tried once more.
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On 2007-03-19 23:33, Bill Palmer wrote:
One thing to think about. Prolific and great are not necessarily synonymous.

It's like the fellow who invented Preparation A, Preparation B, Preparation C, Preparation D, Preparation E, Preparation F and Preparation G. Then he stopped. He should have tried once more.
Very funny; not unlike that hat.

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The only thing about my hat that isn't funny is trying to get it unstuck.
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On 2007-03-23 16:24, Bill Palmer wrote:
The only thing about my hat that isn't funny is trying to get it unstuck.
For the kicker ending do you produce the brain of an elephant from the hat?
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No, but you ought to see my trunk!
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No, but you ought to see my trunk!
Pardon me while I groan.

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I see Annemann's name on the list, but I don't think he actually invented all that much. Certainly, he recorded a lot of ideas, but most of them were the ideas of others. For example, his bullet catch was invented by Orville Meyer.

He was a good routiner, though.

I have a particular admiration for U.F. Grant. He made his biggest impact during the depression. He was particularly adept at creating inexpensive illusions and stage props. Somehow, I have the feeling (completely undocumented) that he obtained some of his supplies from people who were selling off damaged freight, etc, which might account for some of his odd color schemes.
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Annemann invented "Window Envelope" by 1931 and "Flat Rabbit" in 1937. That's all I have on him, although there must be more. My grandson has invented more than that.
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I know it has been posted once before but in pure respect for the man, I must vote Jack Hughes.
He is one of my heroes in Creation of Magic.
I sure wish I could have spent a weekend with him in his shop.
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Annemann was really a thinker and a stylist. He could analyze things and see what would go together well. There are guys who invent things, but they can't see how to make them magical.
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That's the problem with this list. Someone may have 'invented' a technique, but might not have implemented it well, or not published it. So who gets the credit? The inventor, the one who created a successful routine around it, or the one who published it so other magicians became aware of the principle and presentation? Surely each one did his part.

Another problem is that many so-called 'innovations' in magic are just old tricks unearthed, or at best slightly modified in their working, application, or presentation. Who gets the credit for a 100-year-old gimmick that was used for coins that has now been applied to cards, for example?
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Without obsessing over it, I think it is important to attempt to give credit where credit is due. I am constantly "tweaking" my brief biographies of magical inventors in this attempt, as I acquire new information or new leads about an invention. I know the biographies must contain many errors, but I believe it is important to try to correct those errors for future generations of magicians, especially now that we have been given this fabulous Genii that can search thousands of locations, and allows worldwide communication between magicians in a way never possible in history before.

So it is my self imposed "obligation" to try to sort it out- who invented the technique, when was it first published and by whom, who has variations on the theme, and so on. It may seem like a hopeless task, but just because it is difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
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Derek Dingle was a prolific inventor when it came to material that "crushed the souls of other magicians". He was one of the best.
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Derek also borrowed a lot. There is a lot of John Cornelius material in Derek's work, uncredited.

John Cornelius and Steve Duscheck are two of the most innovative guys I know.
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Without a doubt, in my book, Len Belcher and Robert Harbin.
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Who is Len Belcher? Would you offer an example of something of his that we might know of?
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He was a member of the Wolverhampton Circle of Magicians. He created "20th Century in Reverse" which is in Rice's Encyclopedia of Silk Magic.

He is not well known on our side of the pond.
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I have some of Len Belcher's inventions listed in my Brief Biographies of Magic Inventors on my site (20th Century Sympathy, The Mixture, Do-It-Yourself Box, The Temple of Justice, Tombola), but no photo and no dates. If anyone can add that information or any additional inventions of his, I would appreciate it.
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How about Kevin James?
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Kevin has invented a number of interesting items. He also has collaborated with some of the better thinkers.

Another one is Gaetan Bloom.
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