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Profile of limhanchung
Do you think these two kind of effects should be in the same routine?
If so, which one should come first?
I'm asking this because I think that the spectator might suspect something if I do both effects in the same routine. The spectator might think that I used the way I vanished a coin to make the transposition effect.
Hope you understand what I mean.
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Profile of KyleHarnish
If I were you I would try to come up with a way where the transportation and the vanish look completely different, so the spectator wouldn't suspect anything, or if they are laymen they would be in complete awe.

But to answer your question, I would do the vanish first.
Jonathan Townsend
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Would you be a bit more specific here?

If you vanish something, it is gone. If you then bring it back, you have diminished the vanish.

If two or more things transpose, there is no sense of something vanishing. all the coins I've dropped here
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Profile of Dynamike
The majority of the time magicians do the transportation effect first. Next, the vanish effect. Now the act is over. The only reason the vanish should be first is if you want the "appearance" to be included.
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Profile of BenSchwartz
I don't get it... what are you asking? lol
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Profile of JoshBlum
If I were you, I would probably do the vanish last because then you don't have to come up with an excuse for making it reappear.

P.S. Ben, you're funny. Smile
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If you do the vanish first, then what the heck is going to transpose later? It's gone!

If you're talking about vanishing something, and then later going on to transpose two other unrelated things, there isn't much to worry about.

What single vanish (without recovery) of a coin are you thinking about that an entire effect all by itself? One half of the Fickle Nickle? Raven?

I'm with Ben Smile
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