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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Hi All,
I'm trying to find a small imipression pad I saw, but can't remember the name of it now. It was incorporated into a small Mead flip note pad with a spiral wire binding. The creator had developed a larger pad and decided to create a similar pad you could place in your pocket. Any one know the pad I'm trying to describe? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Regards, Steve
"Impossible? Your audience will think so..." TM
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Steve:
I believe you are thinking of the Butterfly pad by Jon Riggs. Here is the link: http://www.jonsaintgermain.com/books.htm Tony |
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
You may be given other options; ignore them and listen to Tony!
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Wow, that's a first.
Thank you Bill. |
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Hi Tony,
You hit the bullseye. That is exactly the impression pad I had seen. Thanks. Do you own it (or know any one who uses it) and could you provide a review please? Regards, Steve
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Mesaboogie Special user 804 Posts |
I much prefer the FI pad to the Butterfly. Much more natural handling.
But this is a personal opinion. |
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Parson Smith Inner circle 1937 Posts |
I can give you a review.
It is amazing. If I had a complaint (and I don't) it would be that I wish that I could have the writing done on the INSIDE of the pad. Peace, Parson
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Malchat Special user The Kingdom of Croiset and Wonder 885 Posts |
I carry a Butterfly daily as part of my impromptu set. You direct the volunteer to write or draw something on a blank page of the pad while you're looking away. They tear the page out (there's nothing underneath for them to find - just more blank pages and the back flap of the pad.
You take the pad back, prepare a new page to draw on, and it's done - you've had your peek of the impression. It looks natural enough for me. The gimmick is well-hidden so you can hand out the pad with confidience. It's not really prone to wearing out, and can be transfered to normal Mead pads if necessary (a must for me since I can't get new Mead pads easily in my country - I bought a couple from John Riggs as refills.) Clever, low-tech, reliable, innocuous, and affordable - you can't miss with this.
“You are what you pretend to be.”
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Hi Parson,
I'm not sure what you mean when you write "... have the writing done on the INSIDE of the pad." Can you clarify without exposure? Thanks. Regards, Steve
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Jean-Luc.R. Inner circle QUEBEC - CANADA 1488 Posts |
What is a FI pad ?
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On 2006-11-14 10:09, Mesaboogie wrote: |
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
I think Messaboogie is talking about Scott Creasey's First Impressions Pad. I personally have not seen the butterfly so I cannot comment on it but I would reccommend the FI pad.
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Kevvy Special user 702 Posts |
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On 2006-11-14 09:45, Bill Cushman wrote: I'm staying out of this one Bill! But it looks like we agree again about something...I also thought he would be given other options! Actually, that was my "first impression" upon reading this thread. |
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Tony Razzano Inner circle South River, NJ 1600 Posts |
They are both very good. The reason I prefer the butterfly is its much easier to get refills, as it were.
Best regards,
<BR>Tony Razzano, Past President, PEA Winner of the PEA"s Bascom Jones and Bob Haines Awards |
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Julian Kestrel Loyal user 268 Posts |
The FI has a more logical real time peek. The notebook is also a bit smaller and will fit in a shirt pocket. Refills are not a problem if you are in England or have access to a quality papers store. I have them both and will use the butterfly for preshow, but not for a real time peek.
The butterfly is well made and John is easy to buy from. Both have different merits. J |
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Richie Dagger Loyal user Tucson, AZ 267 Posts |
The Butterfly is very well made, as already stated, and the peek can be very natural. From what I've come to understand, this is the best option for those of us in the States.
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yachanin Inner circle Cleveland, OH 2105 Posts |
Thanks, everyone. I've decided to place my order for a Butterfly (although I have to say I was VERY tempted to get the FI pad).
Regards, Steve
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Jay Elf Elite user 466 Posts |
Hello.
Talking of John Riggs impression devices, which is easier to peek for real time, "The Butterfly" or "The Mascot Moth"? Thanks. |
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Rael New user Northern California 88 Posts |
I've never used an impression pad and can't help wondering. Don't people ever suspect that you are looking at the indentation made from their writing? That would be the logical guess from a spectator's point of view. Or do you let them remove 3 or 4 sheets?
Rael |
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Mariagi Special user MIND, MYTH & MAGICK 654 Posts |
Yes people could suspect that you are looking at the indentation left provided they have pressed too hard when writing or if you suspiciously scrutiny too much the pad but its all in your presentation:I also do another thing I have people tear a sheet and place it on the back cover of the pad and it erases the indentation theory
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
You're right Kevvy, why did I even start !
Jay, I will say I like the peek on the Moth even more than the Butterfly but they are equally easy to do real time. Here is how I deal with the "indentation dilemna." On the page directly on top of the cover, I have a drawing that covers most of the sheet; the implication being this is either something another participant drew or my reveal from an earlier performance. Then two blank sheets. The top blank sheet has a short "TO DO" list and I just have the participant write beneath it. If they seem a bit hinky, I ask them to look at the drawing that was beneath theirs to see if they drew anything similar. Mariagi, your idea MAY eliminate the impression theory but I think it is a step backwards. To me the advantage of these pads is that they can be written in with the paper in place and torn out by the participant. John's Skeeter requires the post it to be taken off the front of the holder and stuck on the back and that always seemed illogical to me. Of course John doesn't agree with me about this! The ability to proceed without doing this is a big part of what I love about the Butterfly and Moth. Bottom line, being casual and imparting some meaning to the process will avoid most problems. |
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