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alexmagiclive New user 75 Posts |
I want to clear up everything that's going on with the x Levitation right now. Lets start off from all the way in the beginning.
I was sititng in my room when I said to myself, I want to come up with a levitation that looks to good to be true. I wanted something that when a person saw they would be like "holy sh**". During this time (around early July), I started thinking of ideas and planning. I was not aware of the Icarus Effect at all at this time. So I started planning the effect out little by little. I had to settle for three points. 1. It was cheap to make 2. The materials had to be household items, and you did not need any special carpentry skills etc. 3. It was easy to perform, and was practical in real world situations At first it was just a little thing, then I started to add differnt muscular principles (a lot of people doubt these and that is a huge problem, they add so much to the effect) and differnt techniques and variations. What I enjoy so much about the x is the fact that you are so free in the pants, you have so much freedom in there. Compared to other levitations on the market, I personally feel that the x is so cheap and practical compared to other levitations. It only costs about 30 dollars to make, whilst other levitations cost hundreds of dollars to make. A few weeks ago, I had passed out a bunch of preview DVD's for people to see what the levitation was like. Someone had told me that it was similar to an effect currently out called the "Icarus Effect", I looked into it, and watched the DVD and it added to my belief that the x was different from this effect. I even drew up a comparrison chart, showing all the points etc. I personally do not understand why there is so much hatred going to this product. I did not do anything wrong, I did not steal anyones ideas. If I was a tiny bit unsure of my product I would not have spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars on ink, paper, DVD'S, DVD production, DVD editing, labels, cover designs, designing the artwork etc. I spent quite a bit producing these DVD's and if I was not sure of my product I would have stopped at the beginning. But I will not stop, I will fight for my product and I will not let anything get into my way. For the people that do not like it, I will gladly refund you, gladly, under a few conditions. You build the gimmick, you try it out, and you use the muscular techniques I teach, because then, THEN if you still do not like it, I will gladly refund your purchase, no questions asked. That is how confident I am with this, so many people are doubting this product, when they have not tested it, it is like judging a book by its cover. Would you not buy a book just because the artwork wasn't nice, would you buy a car without testing it? What I am trying to say is that if you bought the DVD, you watched it, and you said, you know what, I don't like it. How do you know you don't like something if you have not tried it, that's all I want to know. So for anyone that still likes me, just please. All I ask that, if you have purchased the DVD please, do not judge the book by its cover. This is my effect and I would not have put so much of my personal time and effort into creating it. No matter what anyone says, I will always keep the fight strong. I will not give up because a bunch of guys tell me to go "screw myself". I refuse to be put down by anyone like this. I will fight for my product till the end, because I know its original, and I know it is practical. Thank you for your time, -Alex Rose. p.s. -I am sorry for any trouble I caused anyone |
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cutnstuf New user 14 Posts |
...A CON ARTIST TO THE BLOODY END...
"...when the rain comes they run and hide their heads..."
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deputy Inner circle USA 1041 Posts |
Oh boy this thread is going to blow up fast
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Piz Inner circle Chicago, IL 1351 Posts |
Alex, nice to see your on again. I have posted this once before, not sure if you saw it ( read it ) so I will post it here. Oyea, Alex, even though you came up with this method before you saw Icarus does not make it right to keep selling it. Alex: Nobody here hates you. It is the fact that you made outlandish claims on your site ( when you were with Jon Maronge, and even now ) and promises that cannot be achieved within your final product. Within the last 3 months I have stuck up for you when speculation around here was rampant, I even PM'ed you at one point telling you not to worry about what people said about you, you told me "thanks for your support" . At that time it was all speculation and I felt it was just wrong for some people on here to bash you without even having any knowledge of how your levi was done, and felt that what some were saying was in all ignorance, which was TRUE. This was before I found out the truth behind the actual method used to create the effect known as the X lev. I am very good friends with someone very close to you Alex. I have seen the X lev being taught by you on video. I believe you are a good kid, and I believe you honestly mean no wrong on backing up your product. I just feel you do not realize that your product is violating many laws. Space age material, no shell , the simplicity of modifying your pants... None of this means anything Alex. The reality of the situation is Your effect uses the exact same principle as an existing effect, and that is the only thing that matters here. It is the principle of the effect, the way that it is done to create the illusion of levitation. I can think of many different ways of modifying and performing Angel's levitation, and many other lev's on the market, but would I ever do that and release a DVD based on my modifications, "Heck No".. WHY?? because the principle behind the lev would be the same, no matter how I switched it up. Please take this as constructive criticism and as someone who cares. You take care Alex and I really hope you make the right decision......'PIZ'
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Jesse Feinberg Inner circle www.jessesmagic.com 1074 Posts |
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LWright Regular user Ireland 146 Posts |
I don't believe the DVD teaches you how to reverse play yourself in real time Alex ?
You're not a bit sorry, so don't act it. Again, like it has already been said, it doesn't matter whether you came up with the idea without seeing the ICarus or knowing the principle behind it, the fact is..it's the same principle. You simply didn't research your own levitation against others enough, yet you think that gives you the right to sell it on. Give up Alex. You've shamed yourself enough.
-Lloyd Wright
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dsilverfield Special user 752 Posts |
The following from youtube
axproductions (1 week ago) My lawyer said he copyrighted it, he filled out forms for it and stuff etc., not sure what he did but he said it was taken care of (Reply) d3lud3 (1 week ago) Dude, you're 12 years old. You have a lawyer. ? |
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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
Alex, apologizing is an important first step. You don't seem to be doing that though. Even though we have all seen the demo that Jessiah linked above where you jump and play the video backwards, you have yet to acknowledge that and perhaps explain what you were thinking.
I'm not going to bash you here, I would like an honest answer from you regarding the demo. It will be a good start toward communicating with everyone that is angry over this. |
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Hogle Regular user Germany 133 Posts |
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On 2006-11-19 00:23, alexmagiclive wrote: That's funny! Greetings |
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Josh Zandman Special user 687 Posts |
I'm curious about the demo video as well.
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Alan Rorrison V.I.P. 2494 Posts |
The only think in your way is the whole magic community. I have controvery with some of my products but I deliverd what I promise. you have blantantly stolen idas and money from people willing to take a chance on you
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alanm99 Regular user England, UK 137 Posts |
The only thing than can turn the table towards Alex is a real LIVE demo as shown in Alex's video clip on youtube.
It is not going to happen. FORGET IT. |
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CinChiller Elite user Germany 404 Posts |
How does you call it within the usa, if somebody trys to sell a product with an already published principle, false product promisses and faked video clips? Scam? A deliberate lie? Or just dullness?
I know who we would call this in europe, because we have a lack of understanding for such behavior, but may be within the usa it´s different? I don´t know. Alex, I hope you will understand someday that what you have done wasn´t ok.
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Luke Dancy Inner circle Las Vegas 1147 Posts |
I also think it's horrible that something that is expensive and more importantly something that is only a few months old according to him is up for sale. You would think he would need more time since July to perform with it, use it and modify it than trying to hurry up and sell it to other magicians. This whole thing had 'bad' written all over it.
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magicmike30 Special user 744 Posts |
Alex the fact that you say you thought about this in July and released the X in November tells me all I need to know. Firstly you failed to research your method with exisiting levitations. Alright I will say that is just inexperience on your part. Second this was not field tested very long most inventors want to test and perfect their creation.
You are missing the bigger picture here. If you had researched and consulted with other magician's you would have seen that wow the workings of my levitation mirrors an exsisting one. The method is key here Alex. Just the fact you claim that you invented this does not mean you can use it. The method is too similar and your levitation should have never been released. The fact that your levi was dropped by a distributor speaks volumes. Jon also refused to shoot your demo when he found out the truth. Alex you have made crazy claims about your levitation. Float up to 4 feet surrounded. The thing that really bothers me is that your demo is not true to your levitation. Your first levi to the rail is played in reverse. Your shoelaces move before you do and there is no way that can be done with the X you are selling. Alex below is what you claim on You Tube. Ax Productions. PLEASE NOTE: Everything you see in this demo, you will be able to do with the purchase of the x Levitation DVD. Do not assume something when you have not even watched the explanation portion of the DVD. Care to explain that Alex? The members who have reviewed your X say that your first levi on the demo to the rail is impossible. Have you heard of false advertising? I'm glad you are going to give people their money back if they build your levi and do not like it. I wish you would just pull this from your site and win some respect back. You can fight for your levi but it will end up being a marker for you in the magic community. When you want to get serious about your magic and need the help of respected magician's they will turn you away. This might not seem like a big deal now but just wait till you are older. This X will come back to bite you, Karma has a way. So you can do the right thing and pull this from your site. I'm pretty sure I know your answer Alex. I have been proved wrong in the past. Looking forward to your response on your claims that you can levitate to that rail. magicmike30
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Malchat Special user The Kingdom of Croiset and Wonder 885 Posts |
Don't forget to clear things up about 'your' center tear as well.
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What I enjoy so much about the x is the fact that you are so free in the pants, you have so much freedom in there. :D
“You are what you pretend to be.”
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Josh Zandman Special user 687 Posts |
Hahaha "so much freedom in the pants" - now maybe Alex should market that as an effect.
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LWright Regular user Ireland 146 Posts |
Nah, all you need is to be a 12 year old again.
Then you'll have plenty of "freedom in the pants".
-Lloyd Wright
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
You'd be wise to remove your product from the market for at least a cooling off period. During this time you could do some research on the legal standing and overall acceptability of what you're doing.
When you develop something independantly, but discover that somebody else has already brought the same product to market there are choices you must make. Those choices will impact what magicians think about you, and will either establish or destroy your credibility within the magic community. The choice you're currently making is the wrong one my friend. The problem is that nothing will be made right until you yourself understand that it's a bad choice Do the right thing.......there likely won't be a second chance within the magic community for you. |
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
It's too late, the entire affair is now posted on the Genii forum, which is pretty much the nail in the coffin for you.
Serious guys over there on the Genii forum, with long memories. |
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