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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
I'm a beginner at this, so I'm currently practising all day, even making the dinner with my hands not entirely empty. The largest coin in our currency, the 2 euro, seems too small in my hands for the classic method (though easy to finger palm), so I was wondering whether I'm wasting my time trying, or if my hand muscles will eventually strengthen to keep it in place.
I have had some success with a coin a mere fraction larger. Any advice? |
Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
If you are talking about classic palming and I will assume you are, you should be able to use about any size coin within reason. Place the coin in question in your hand palm up, then think of your thumb as a clamp and just move your thumb in and out trying to clamp the coin into the flesh of your skin on the other side of your thumb. Try this several times with varying amouts of pressure till you get a good clamp on the coin and then turn your hand over, it should hold.
If you do this try to remember in your mind how your hand feels and hold the thought that your thumb is just a clamp on the coin and you should have great success. Initially you will be clamping with your thumb hard, but you will find you can even ease back on the clamping action and still maintain hold on the coin and your hand will look more natural.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
Thanks for the tips, fingers! (no pun intended)
I tend to be a little cryptic when I discuss secret moves in forums open to Google so sorry if it was less than clear what I referring to. Anyway, I'll take your advice and work on it. |
Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Find a way that works for you.
Glad to hear you are exploring the use of MONEY and not bailing out to "coin land" for method reasons.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
Hope what I wrote helped some. Just thinking of the thumb as a clamp has helped me enormously.
I agree with the cryptic thing, we can't be too careful. I did try to explain without being too obvious and still giving you the right mindset. Good luck with your coin magic.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
I have plenty of free time these days and no hurry to perform so I decided I wanted to learn _something_ properly!
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
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On 2006-11-21 08:10, Fingers wrote: Taking these words on board has already made me look at the action in a different way, and I'm left wondering how come I couldn't do it so well just 10 minutes ago. I think the key for me is the difference between squeezing and clamping. Thanks! |
Fingers Inner circle Pennsylvania, USA 1330 Posts |
Your welcome caubeck, glad to be of some help. That is what I like about the Café', I have personally received so much help from the people here its amazing! It feels so good when you can return the favor at least a little bit.....
Where I go, so do my coins.....
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phedonbilek Special user Greece, Cameroon, France 883 Posts |
Until last year I was using exclusively Euros. All my gaffs were Euro coins, etc.
You will have no problem CPing 2-Euro coins, just keep practicing. Last year I moved to the USA, and had to change to coins Americans are most accustomed to (people kept asking me what those funny little coins were ) I switched to Halves, and I must say these coins were made for magic... I think they are the perfect size, at least for me. If you're in Europe, keep practicing with Euros. The beauty of it is that these coins are in use, and you can borrow them. Here, I tried borrowing Halves. Without success so far My two Euro-cents Phedon
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
Hi Phedon,
I find nobody suspects a euro gaff here in Spain. Maybe it's the culture, maybe it's the complete lack of a street magic movement. Or maybe it's just because these euro coins look impossible to machine anyway. (Although to be honest, I don't think anyone over the age of 9 who has seen a coin bite routine can doubt the existence of coin props.) I prefer euros because of people's emotional attachment to them, or rather to their beer and bread money. It's odd, if I take out a 100 peseta coin, which everyone used till recently, a lot of people don't even recognise it immediately! I'm waiting for some items from Roy Kueppers to arrive, euro versions of course. Should be fun. |
phedonbilek Special user Greece, Cameroon, France 883 Posts |
Hi Caubeck, Roy was my supplier in Euro gaffs as well... Never had to complain, and he's a nice guy.
In Greece people often asked me at the end of a routine if I could do the same with their own coins (if I performed with mine). Hence my approach lately to use only borrowed coins (and switching later on to gaffs if needed). You're right, that's the beauty of using Euros: it's the money they use everyday. Halves here are not common objects any more, unfortunately. Have a nice day. Phedon
...The only easy day is yesterday...
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caubeck Elite user 412 Posts |
Are Roy Kuepper's flippers good? I'm planning to get deeper into coins over the next couple of months. Any other items made by him you'd recommend? I'm expecting a folding 2, the boxes set, and a c/s to arrive shortly.
Using gaffed euros in 2006 is much easier than in 2002, now it doesn't matter whether the heads side is from France or Germany or Spain or anywhere else. I bought one with the Pope on it the other day to make my coin transfer exercises more interesting. Silver insert, golden rim, it's a colour-inverted 2. Cheers, Chris |
phedonbilek Special user Greece, Cameroon, France 883 Posts |
If you have any preference, you can send Roy your coins and he will use them to make your gaffs. I had all the 'basic' gaffs, including the flipper -I rarely used-. Very well made. Just be aware that Euro shells are far from being perfect; when nested the coin is REALLY thick. Not to be shown from the side, otherwise even a myopic mole would spot it. The double faced coin (2-Euro/2UK Pence) is very good. The folding coin is so-so, as opposed to the folding Half only a very small portion of the coin folds. As a result, people a bit far won't see anything, you'll have to do this very close.
Good luck with your coins. Phedon Phedon
...The only easy day is yesterday...
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