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GWSchott Veteran user Southeastern Michigan 361 Posts |
Right now, I'm happy to be a part-time performer...I'm afraid if I tried to make magic my 'full-time' job, I'd stop enjoying it as much. Right now, if I could do six shows a month I'd be happy. At an average of $150 a pop, it would land me an extra $11,0000 a year. Even if my expenses ran $3,000, I'd still net eight grand, all for doing something I have a heck of a lot of fun with.
Yours In Magic,
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Jolly Roger V.I.P. Sedona, Arizona 1667 Posts |
GW.........I notice you are a REALTOR. Don't you make at least 8k each time you sell a home? Mind you, the housing market I believe is not so good at the moment. I have a couple of friends in Phoenix who make more money doing shows than selling homes!
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Red Shadow Inner circle 1788 Posts |
If you plan on videoing a private party for promotional use, take with you a couple of masks and costumes and dress the helper up.
That way, you cannot see their face on camera, and you can now use the footage without all the pesky paperwork problems. Good shows to record are fancy dress parties, since they come in their own costumes, and Halloween shows, since they come in costume as well. Since it's getting close to Christmas, get a Santa's hat and attach a false beard to it. Use it as a way to select your volunteer by handing it to the child as they are sat down. They put on the hat, and then come up on stage. You can now use ALL of the footage, without having to edit out any faces. As for the video itself, you will never get a perfect picture because you are at a private party and parents will be rushing around the room and walking in front of the camera. As a performer, you will walk out of the frame of the camera on occasion and forget to point the effect at the camera when needed. Just record as many shows as you can, and then make a montage sequence of various tricks from all the shows. This looks better since they get to see you do lots of work in lots of venues, rather than just one anyway. Don't bother with a tripod, it will get knocked over and break the camera since you are on stage and are unable to protect it. Simply leave the camera on a window-sill or high beam, and point it in your direction. Take some white-tack and stick it to the bottom of the camera, so it can be used to tilt the camera when needed, and stick it to the surface so that it doesn't slide. I've videoed 8 shows this year. Not all shows were appropriate for videoing, due to there being no place to put the camera. It's get what you can and hope for the best. Steve |
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
I think I could make a million being the "Amway Magician." I'd get other magicians to work under me, and a portion of their business goes to me. Then they'd recruit others, who would recruit others. If I could get ALL of you to join my wonderful organization, I'd make a million.
Being a performer is really the worst line of work to be in if you want to make a lot of money, because we are restricted by TIME. We can only be in one place at a time, which eventually will limit our earnings. Unless we are among the fortunate few (REALLY few) who can get the million$ by appearing on TV, where MILLIONS can see them, we are better off finding ways to make $$$ without having to be "on site." Which is why I'm gonna make some commercials and start selling "TV Magic Rope." There's one long piece, one medium piece, and ... oh, forget it. |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Yes, being a "Good" Agent and setting up a "franchise" where you develop and train others to do your show is a fine way to make money. You develop a program that can be sold nationally, then train regional entertainers to perform that show, and it can net a sizable sum.
The drawback is it becomes a selling business more than a business of you having the fun. It more about profit than fun.
Dennis Michael
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Boy, you pinpointed that one, Dennis. Then again, for a lot of people making the money IS the fun part.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
We'd all like to make more money. Logic tells me that I want to earn my living from doing my shows, and having all that fun. And I do. I can live well with what I earn, enjoy a couple of good holidays every year, eat healthily, have a good "work life balance", etc. To add extra income, I've just started a holiday flat rental business with my previous abode, and I'm considering making a CD of kids' songs. In a few years time, I'd like to buy a suitable property in a holiday destination (somewhere warm and sunny) and offer holiday accommodations with free entertainment. I know that I could build up a clientele who would want to visit my "hotel", because they would have the time of their lives!
There are very few folks who properly understand the tourism industry and the entertainment industry. They are very similar, but have a number of major differences. This is a little dream that has occurred to me, lucky that I believe in magic, there's nothing to stop it coming true.... |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
To set clear the difference of making a million and happiness is a good question.
What is more important, the making of a million or happiness? In this section are schemes for planning to make that million. In addition, also stated was the IMPORTANCE of having fun. Can you buy Happiness? No, because it is not a tangible thing one can purchase. Can you find Happiness? No, because again, that would be something you would be looking for, and it doesn't exist as a tangible object. You can only gain happiness by giving it. Yes, it's that FUN that was mentioned many times in this section. Money isn't as important as happiness. However, giving happiness and getting paid well to do so, that's real joy! The happiness rewards come back ten-fold. When planning to make that million, consider the above statements and really think about what you really want, and then go for it. Dennis
Dennis Michael
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Of course, making the million doesn't necessarily mean EARNING the million ... and it doesn't have to happen within one year.
Sound financial planning and investments, along with planning your show earnings and not being so greedy as to need it within one year CAN, indeed, make a magician a millionaire. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
One magician might get lucky by doing the following:
Arrive at a casino before performing your magic show. With perfect timing, you might win $999,800. Next, perform your $200 show. And before you know it, you are a millionaire. That is my #1 method of making $1,000,000 dealing with a magic show. |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Or, Dynamike, reality might set in - you will lose $200 and do a free show! (The most likely scenario.) I live 38 miles from the AC Casinos, and the free buffets are not free. They generally cost me a couple of hundred.
If a million is a goal, then do the math and take as many years as necessary to make it. A Million is a thousand days of $1,000 dollars per day. A Million is 5 thousand $200 birthday parties. (25 years of 200 shows a year) Cut this in half if doing $400 school shows. Create a DVD and a good Book, and this time is reduced. Sell magic, and then the time line further reduces. Hmmm... This is probably why there are not that many rich magicians...
Dennis Michael
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
Another possible way for a magician to get rich to is perform for a millionaire movie star. When entering or leaving the millionaire's premises, the magician might slip and fall, causing a lot of body damage. Soon, the magician will be a millionaire. That is my two cents worth.
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Red Shadow Inner circle 1788 Posts |
Maybe you could do a show in the bank vault, and finish with your vanishing act.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
It's been a while since this post has made itself to the top of this thread.
I read this thread and since Jan 2007 I had major health issues where other magicians, (SAM & KIDabra members) volunteered to pick up those jobs. Since January, I've turned down more shows than I did because of cardiac problems as well as a mix of other health issues. One thing you do realize, while lying immobile in a bed in the hospital for a week… that a million does you very little without good health, and without "family bonding." One realizes a mega million dollar lottery is useless, if you are not around to enjoy that kind of money with family members. My goals have switched to giving happiness to my 13 year old son and wife, and making others happy. Making $500 a month "play money" is fine for me. I can still do and rely on my trained corporate friends to do my fire officer training and have sufficient funds to "play" well with the family. Soon my grandchildren will arrive, and I am hoping to enjoy them. Please look to your future, have a pension plan, a medical plan, a prescription plan, and a savings plan in place, if this is going to be your full time business. Without a plan, your later years will be horrible and in financial ruin. At this stage of my life, my cash-out network is over a million dollars, if I should die suddenly, my wife has a pension plan for life (planned this 30 years ago), a nice cash sum from a life insurance policy (Planned this 13 years ago), a savings account for a year unemployed or for an emergency (Planned this 15 years ago), funeral expenses are paid, complete medical plan, and no monthly payments (Planned this 25 years ago). The only expenses my wife will have, are electric bill, fuel oil bill, phone bill, house taxes, car & home insurances, food, and my son's educational expenses (No mortgages or Credit Card debt). In addition she is an RN, and is capable of working in a field she loves. I know when you are having fun performing, and you are young, these are items you really don't think of or plan or say, "I'll get to it tomorrow" which never comes until too late. (They should be in place before you are 30, if not start now or see a financial planner if you can’t do it on your own.) "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" is a good book to read for some insight on your life's earnings. I am fortunate, and in the last six months of "hidden" internal health issues, my life evaluation and planning prevents that "worry of not properly providing for the family" which would add to the health issues. I just got the chills thinking, "Was this a wake-up call to make this post so others stop and take several moments to evaluate their life's planning?" I am sixty and want another 10 years, but this may not be a reality in my situation, so I must live for the moment and enjoy that moment! That million dollar a year quest or winning the lottery all of a sudden doesn’t seem so important to me. Please give this some thought, a million dollars is not a lot of money these days, please plan and think of your future. Dennis Michael Dowhy http://www.dowhy.com
Dennis Michael
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
Advice to reflect on.
How do you have a "complete medical plan, and no monthly payments?" Or are these two separate items? Thanks.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
From 28 years as a fire fighter (Government job) and great negotiations from the union. It was part of my retirement package.
Now as a corporate business, one can pitch for such a plan for the corporate employees, and it will cost money for years then as part of your retiement package, monthly payments are not required.
Dennis Michael
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Andre Hagen Inner circle 1432 Posts |
Wow, and I thought my Wisconsin State Retirement was good!
I hope your health issues improve Dennis. Kidabra, the Café, your family and your friends need you here for a long time to come! Andy
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one - Albert Einstein
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I really don't want to get off topic, because the issue of making a million is easier than one thinks. It just requires some serious thinking and planning. Donald Trump makes it look so easy.
Dennis Michael
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Tod Todson Inner circle USA 1296 Posts |
Easier than one thinks?
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magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
HMM
Raise your minuim fee... $1,000 per .. Corporations and some private events will pay this... Sometimes they will book for 3- 4 hours.... Make ceo's appear at $5,000 to $10,000 a pop.............. One could reach their goal much easier and it is very realistic...................
Curtis Lovell II
http://www.CurtisLovell.com http://www.MagicofCurtis.com www.facebook.com/curtislovellii Los Angeles, California - U.S.A. |
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