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jlevey
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I am considering to purchase such a the waistband mic/speaker system, but I worry that if my dummy's voice (and mine) come out of the speaker at waist level, will the audience perceive it as such, or will the illusion of "throwing my voice" to my dummy be perserved?

Thoughtful opinions/experience in this regard would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Anyone?
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I used to use a waist system for small venues...It was a 3 or 5 watt system..

Now I have gone to a 15 watt system for smaller venues. That is small enough to wear as a shoulder bag. (but I rarely use it that way..usually I set it on a table.)

While I did use the waist system, it seemed to work well and did help the voice in walk around.

If possible, take your proposed system, out for a test drive in the store(or home)prior to purchase.

Find out if it works for you.

Many magicians also seem to have used the waist model.

Illusions take place between the ears and eyes.

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jlevey
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Thanks Harris.

Your input is always thought-filled and appreciated.

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I use a wastebelt system for vent (appollo talkabout) it works great. If you are beleiveable as a vent, the sound comming from the same place doesn't matter. It comes from the same place when you don't use a mic. I have seen vents use a stand mic who don't have the puppet near the mic, but because they are good people don't seem to question it. Personally I would have a seprate mic for the puppet to really sell it if I were using a stand mic.
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Thanks Mr. Mystic for your seasoned input.

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I don't quite understand.

If you are doing walkabout/meet'n'greet/mix'n'mingle with vent why on earth should you require a mike?

And what use is a 3 to 5 watt output?

And you surely wouldn't attempt to use that sort of output for an audience of several hundred?

Wouldn't it be better and cheaper and easier to sign up for a course of lessions on voice production? Or simply join the local dramatic society and learn how to breath and project?

With big audiences why not consider a concealed tiny lapel mike to a radio transmitter and thence to the venue sound system via the radio receiver.

That way there is no visual focus on any mike point and both your voice and the figure's should be in balance.

Or am I totally misunderstanding something?
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No, Toony, I believe that you are understanding the concerns and questions raised and in response, you have provided some very valid points for consideration.

Thank you.

Still, I am finding that in cocktail situations, with background music (ie. live jazz band or piped in musac) along with the hum of nearby guests standing just outside of the ring of speactators (spectators that assemble in small groups during my mingle magic/ventriloquism), that my voice tires and strains quickly and even if I project, I am competing against the ambiant sounds. Perhaps it is becaiuse I am growing older and have not exercised my vocal chords regularly, like in my youth, but I still am looking at options.

In addition, I know that many of my corporate spectators are in their 50's and 60's and their hearing is not very strong, especialy witht the ambiant/background sounds, so I belive that a small amplification system might prove mutualy beneficial.

Again, thanks for your thoughtful input Tony. It will be seriously considered.

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Thanks. I understand now the background to this - it's the background noise that's the problem.

I've had this too and over here it's usually wisest to approach the client. Provided they are of a similar age you get them to have the canned music killed 'because your guests are finding it difficult'. Same age, they'll understand, only once cleared YOU get it killed. That way it happens.

When your contact is younger you tell lies - the big boss (whoever's at the top and of the age) is struggling only you don't want to draw attention to it. 'I'll get it switched off for you, OK?' Again, you have control.

I don't have to do it too often. Quality events (and those who aspire to be having one) are aware that over here canned music is considered very downmarket. Hotels switch it off in their function rooms and any restaurant that has music of this sort finds their guide ratings marked right down.
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I've found a small waistband amplifier an absolute godsend for this type of work where you are performing to small groups and ambient noise is a problem. It's usually not so much the background music but the noise from the other guests in the room. I can usually manage without it but it's great to know I have it there should it be necessary.
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jlevey
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Thanks Kimmo.

What model waistband amplifier do you use?

Do you feel its weight or is it "part of you" and unobtrusive?

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