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I do a Hydrostatic glass routine... and I was thinking it would be neat to start a discussion around the possibility of as the water is commanded to fall from the glass.. I thought it would be neat to have the ability to FREEZE or stop water in mid air ???? Any thoughts or ideas?

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This would be a great idea, no idea on how to do it without some crazy apparatus but its a cool idea. I saw David Copperfield do it when I was younger but I don't remember it to well. Would this idea be more of a close up, hands on type thing or a stage trick?
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Slush or Snow Powder would give a nice 'in the glass' freezing effect.

Perhaps not what you are after though!

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What about using mercury (quicksilver) and magnets ?
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No matter how audacious you are, magnets will not stop the flow of mercury.
I prefer, "Fortune favors the prepared mind."

However, I saw some plastic icicles for hanging on a Christmas Tree this past season. I would experiment on cutting one down a bit and letting it hang over the edge of the glass in the flow of water. It should be invisible (if it works). Then you could just stop the flow of water and the plastic icicle hanging down might seem to be frozen water. It might look better with a glass icicle, but the basic premise could be tested inexpensively by a visit to the tree ornament box, if you haven't yet packed them all away.
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Oh, sorry ... I think that I am wrong here.
When I read the topic subject, I thought it's about nursing homes.
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On 2007-01-07 13:46, Marcello wrote:
What about using mercury (quicksilver) and magnets ?


Mercury is not attracted to magnets. It is also illegal to purchase it in most countries, because of its toxicity.

I don't recall the Copperfield effect you are referring to; however, I do remember some experiments I saw on television with a clear gel or polymer that looked like water, but was what they call "elastoviscous."
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I would experiment with a rope of clear plastic wrap - maybe with some clear silicone caulk for bulk.

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I seem to recall reading an e-book several years ago that had a clever and workable method for stopping water in mid-air. I can't remember the author or the name of the book, but I remember the name of the book was in Latin. I'll check and see if it's still on my computer.

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On 2007-01-08 17:18, Spellbinder wrote:
However, I saw some plastic icicles for hanging on a Christmas Tree this past season. I would experiment on cutting one down a bit and letting it hang over the edge of the glass in the flow of water. It should be invisible (if it works). Then you could just stop the flow of water and the plastic icicle hanging down might seem to be frozen water. It might look better with a glass icicle, but the basic premise could be tested inexpensively by a visit to the tree ornament box, if you haven't yet packed them all away.

Nice! In the Flicking Flingers (www.theflickingfingers.com) DVD there's a trick with a Gummy Bear on a wine glass. I can't give away the technique, but how it's hidden and brought into play is smart.
I could see a variation with a plastic icicle on the far side (close to you, far from them) of a glass, you pour out water (far side from you, closer to them), then spin the glass in your hand nonchalantly/flourishy so now you're pouring water over the [not immediately noticeable] icicle, yell "Stop!" and tilt the glass just enough to stop the water from pouring and let the image of the icicle sink in.
Then "snap" off the icicle, rubs it between your cupped hands and throw your hands up and a small splash of water shoots up, the icicle (sleeved) is gone. [I always have to take things just a little farther...hehe]
And bonus if the cup you're pouring into can suddenly turn to ice when you yell "Stop" too! =)

Lots of people seem so into fire magic, I find ice magic to be refreshing and... cool. ;P B-)

Has anyone seen the end of the movie Magicians? IIRC the guy throws a bucket of water at the audience and it stops (freezes momentum, not turns-to-ice) in midair...!
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This idea reminds me from a scene in a movie. Smile
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Hey Rick,

The ebook was Ignis Fatuus by Zach Allen. The effect was Matrix - here's the description from the advert

"You cause a raindrop to pause in mid-air, and everyone can get a look at it floating in the air. With a wave of your hand, it continues its journey down to the ground, vanishing in a puddle."
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Have you seen the bar trick where you take a "chilled" beer, tap the bottle and the whole thing freezes solid? I thought everyone had tried this.

Check YouTube if you have too.


On the subject of magnetic liquids, check out ferrofluids, for example:
http://www.dansdata.com/magnets.htm
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Is the ebook by zach still available?

I googled it, the only place I found to purchase it was his blog,but the paypal links are not working. Also his email is not working.
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Hey Fishwasher,

Haven't been able to find it ono the net. I seem to remember it being on http://www.magic-notes.com/ a while back but it is no longer there. Zach had an email address for his blog but he also had zachallemagic@gmail.com - you might try giving that one a shot.
Hope this helps.

MrMagi

Some other ones fro the blog site are:
zachallenmagic@hotmail.com
magicpdog@hotmail.com
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Mirror glass, slush powder, Lucite insert on a string?
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Hmmm, well if the water was doctored to have a thicker consistency but remain fluid and clear, you had some means of having a small opening inside the mouth of the glass through which the fluid must and could only pass, and you had some sort of silent vacuum device that was powerful enough, you could make it halt momentarily at some point (would very with viscosity of fluid) and even make it reverse. Nah, got to be an easier way.
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Bill, I think is on the right track. You can add a chemical (I forgot the name), but it changes the water to a polymer without changing its appearance. You can pour the liquid from one container to another and, if you time it right, you can have the water stop and then changed directions. You can also cut the water with a pair of scissors, while pouring. The lower portion continues to fall into the lower container, while the upper portion reverses flow and goes back up into the upper container.

The problem is, 35 years ago when I first witnessed this in a chemistry class, it was a mystery. Today, I've seen it so many times demonstrated in high school classes that the mystery is gone.
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