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SteveTheMagician
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Hey, I gots me a few idea for creating my own effects. here's my problem... I don't know how to make them!

so, my question is this: how do you go about with creating an trick (like some sort of new gimmick) when you don't have the means to?

do you bring in an outside source? like if I need some metal piece welded, should I do find a welder and have him do the job? wont that give away the secret of the trick to a non-magician?

like I said, I have a few ideas for some new magical effects, but I don't have the skills needed to make them.

what should I do?

-Steve
ToasterofDoom
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Get a specialist, but don't tell what it's for unless absolutely necessary. Give the parameters, sure, but that doesn't mean you have the spill your precious secrets.
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Steve,

You could also find a manufacturer of magic that you trust and pitch your ideas to them.

Regan
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kaytracy
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You do not say if this is large or small. or what it should be made form.
You might be able to do some prototyping with cardboard, light woods or even paper to see how things would work. Then you can go to a shop and have things made up.
Be aware that you will have to be able to tell them what it is you want them to do. If you do not trust them to work witih you in the project, you will need to give them some very specific work plans. Each time you need an adjustment it is likely to cost money for a re-make, so do that cardboard practice model first.
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I just recently built a few elaborate stand up style tricks. And I'm not exactly having the problem with building but with getting them on the market. Anyone have any ideas?
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"Getting them on the market" is too general a statement. Do you want to be a magic manufacturer and turn out tricks by the thousands for sale to magic dealers (like U.F. Grant used to do)? Do you want to sell your ideas for building them (like I do?). Do you want to sell the idea to someone else to take over the manufacture and distribution? Do you want to become a magic dealer yourself?

Once you narrow your definition of what you mean by getting your tricks on the market, you'll either have figured it out for yourself, or people in this forum should be able to offer you meaningful suggestions to help you closer to your goal.
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acmp
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Steve,

You could always PM some people on the forum with some extra details and see if they have any advice. I've done this myself and had good responses. Just try and find people who you believe would be interested (try and keep it to people in the right area, no good asking a card man about a stage illusion!)

You don't need to give it all away, just the effect and ask if they are interested in helping.

Best of luck
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Research your idea. Try to find things that already exist, that are similar or do the same thing. There are some very knowledgeable people here on the Café. They know as much about the history of magic as you will find any where in the world.

Once you find them, you might ask your question discreetly. Say you have a way to produce ten full sized bowling ball from an umbrella. You ask; Have you ever heard of a magician producing a bowling ball from anything other than a briefcase? If anyone gives you a hard time, don't let them upset you, just thank them for their help and move on.

Once you have clearly determined you have created something knew, try not to let any one person make every part; have so-n-so make part "A" What's-his-face make part "B" that way your secrets stay yours. Be creative!

Just my two cents.
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