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Dannydoyle
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Slim your right. I am a nobody. Why bother with me?

As I said before, do all the shows you can. Please eleveate our idiotic side show further than anyone has before you. I am certain someone who has your skills is destined for greatness, I can only hope it is in our field.

Good luck.
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Slim lets get one thing clear. NOBODY is slagging you ok? Put it back in your pants for a second.

I question ANY method for learning any art expression that you can learn in just an hour and BAM your doing shows. It can happen yea and yada yada but in general it is not a great thing.

I have NOT QUESTIONED your performance ability. NOT ONCE. I have said that the 10,000 people may be there for another reason, and YOU happen to be there. This is true, not a slag. It is reality.

IF you tell me that with 0 performance ability to begin with that you can learn a complete show and make money with it in an hour, I say that perhaps that is a bit ambitious. THAT IS NOT ME BASHING YOU.

Why is that so hard to accept?
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The cool stuff starts in chapter 6.
Stay away from the nerve method of induction in chapter 4.
It can be a killer.
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My girlfriend wants me to get off of the computer....So think whatever you want about what's NOT in my pants Smile
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Your right again Slim, anyone dong magic or performance outside the USA is a failure.
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Its funny, you guys fight over stuff like this, yet a guy asked for help with self hypnosis, and all he got was less than helpful advice. "Do research," and "Aum."

Is that what this place is for, guys who know more than others to make fun of those who ask for advice? It is the impression I'm getting.

Do we need to know a secret handshake or something to not get slapped aroung?
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Getting slapped around is the welcoming system in the hypnosis section. Ignore it and get on with your education. It just won't come from this forum. I got mine and went on to perform in spite of this forum. If you really want a place that is supportive of the beginner try http://www.stagehypnosiscenter.com for that. It's not free but it will get you further than you'll get here.

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It wasn't me I was talking about, it was this guy: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......22&3

I've got the best teacher money can't buy right here at home. But thank you for the advice.

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It sounds like this book would be good for beginner's, but not something I would want to use as my only source to "go pro". After all, like in magic, studying how to do a few tricks doesn't make you ready to be the next Lance Burton or David Copperfield.

What I would like to know from all this posting is: Where does one go to learn hypnosis on a professional level, both for hypnotherapy and stage?
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It sounds like this book would be good for beginner's, but not something I would want to use as my only source to "go pro". After all, like in magic, studying how to do a few tricks doesn't make you ready to be the next Lance Burton or David Copperfield.

What I would like to know from all this posting is: Where does one go to learn hypnosis on a professional level, both for hypnotherapy and stage?
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On 2006-12-28 21:54, MagicalPirate wrote:
Getting slapped around is the welcoming system in the hypnosis section. Ignore it and get on with your education. It just won't come from this forum. I got mine and went on to perform in spite of this forum. If you really want a place that is supportive of the beginner try http://www.stagehypnosiscenter.com for that. It's not free but it will get you further than you'll get here.

Martin Smile


Martin up till recently I would disagree completly.
NOT NOW!

Indeed the support they offer a beginner is worth the money spent. You know my history with the owner of the site, but I mean that sincerly.

ESPECIALLY when you consider the alternative.
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Get a certification, get a mentor, get something that can direct you, not a paltry book (which I bought out of curiosity and am very dissappointed with). I do a lot of college and high school shows with hypnosis, I stay away from comedy clubs. There is no double standard for me, I got the training and put in the hours, unless you believed that I was saying just not to do it. By all means do it, it is fun and enlightening, just pick how you learn carefully. A fix-it book from home depot doesn't make you a contractor, the medical dictionary doesn't make you a doctor, so a party book on hypnosis shouldn't make you a hypnotist. And Slim, since your certified wouldn't you take offense at someone reading this book and considering themself a hypnotist?
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Howdy y'all. It's been awhile since I've last posted. School's been hectic. I figured I'd drop in to share some thoughts here before finishing my essay.

I've grown to really respect Mr. Doyle and pretty all of the other serious performers of the art here. He's gotten me to delve further into the art, and despite my absence from this place I have become more acquainted with the topic and continue to learn. He's a great guy and knows what he's talking about. Not saying that we all agree with him, but still. Smile

As far as a one hour guide, well, all I can say is that for some things it may work. I've been teaching myself to play the piano for some years now, and chords aren't hard to learn. I worked through the major, minor, sus2, sus4, 6th, 7th (dim, min, maj, dom), diminished, augmented, 9th, 11th, 13th chords in all 12 keys in a matter of days. Then again, I couldn't possibly just know that the 13th degree of the Ab major scale is F without having a foundation in music theory (in this case, scale building). Even after you have your foundation and basic chords, you have to master them. You play them in all sorts of voicings and develop your style until you have it all down pat. Sooner or later you'll be playing incredible music. Sure you can play some simple progressions and whatnot, but in order to call yourself a true <i> musician </i> you must know more than that. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything about there being simple patterns, but there's also more to it. Interesting analogy, though Smile. Now, people all have their diferent ways of learning. We've all heard that one plenty of times. BUT we can't forget that there are also certain ways of learning things as well. If you want to learn how to <i> properly </i> earn the title of Stage Hypnotist, it takes a lot more than a 1-hour guide. Sure you can learn some things, maybe some decent information, but in terms of hypnosis I have to agree that it takes more than that. I'm not saying that it isn't a great <i> resource </i>, but it shouldn't be the only thing you refer to. I'm not saying that it's a terrible thing to you, Slim, in particular because I don't know what sort of studying you've done prior. I would assume that, with a stage show of your own, you're already pretty darn good. One-hour guides work for some things, but not for others. Plain and simple. If you want to learn how to play some chords on the piano, heck, you can do that in under an hour for sure. If you want to learn how to play <i>music</i> as a musician, it's going to take a lot more. I myself am constantly studying the topic and questioning people's ideas. I took the Royle course but even some of the things he says are absurd, I'm not going to lie. Is it a good start? Maybe. I've still got a bit of a way to go before I can reach any solid conclusions of my own that work for me. I will say that the more you research, the more you have to compare and learn from.

Once again, I'm not saying that this book is absolutely terrible. But to those of you just starting out, don't think you can put on a full hypnosis act from this one text. You can't, end of story. A couple of party tricks like the five-finger lift, but not a decent show. It's the truth and I felt dim-witted after my first talk with Mr. Doyle. If you're not going to take it seriously, do yourself and your potential audience a favor and put it off to the side until you have the willingness to learn in full. I don't want to sound harsh here, I'm terribly sorry if I do. I just don't want anybody else making the mistake.


Dan

P.S. Slim, this isn't an attack toward you. Sorry if it's mistakened as that. I just wanted to use your piano analogy to prove a point to others. Smile
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Daniel says
Sure you can play some simple progressions and whatnot, but in order to call yourself a true <i> musician </i> you must know more than that. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything about there being simple patterns, but there's also more to it. Interesting analogy, though Smile
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I had a room mate who was very Arrogant also. (I'm not taking this as a personal attack) He used to say how you had to learn almost EVERYTHING before you could call yourself a Musician. He used to P.I.S.S. everyone off, especially the keyboard players in Orlando who work the Duelling Piano bars around here and Vegas. They don't use charts or music of any kind!
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didn't read music either. Was HE not a Musician.
You'd better re-think your position before you offend many people in your lifetime.....Like Mr. D.D. Smile
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Hahaha, exactly. I tried to not specify reading music or anything. There are PLENTY of well-known musicians who couldn't read music for crap (especially blues/jazz players). But, there is definitely more to being a musician than learning a few chords. The popular chord style isn't just about block chords. Great stuff, though. Easier to pluck out by ear than single notes, too, which is a plus. lol But anyway...
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The ones I find incredible are the musical savants. These are people who, without any training, can step up to a piano or some other instrument and be able to play instantly. Some of the most famous composers of classical music had this gift. There's even a savant in England that can only express himself through his piano.
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Would you be referring to Derek....something? Can't quite remember his last name...
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