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Review King
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It's expected to arrive at Penguin on February 1st, 2007.

http://penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1581

It says "This course will take you from beginner to pro in coin magic".

Well...that isn't going to happen. I watched the demo clip and that wasn't the impression I got.
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"You'll be able to go out and get those audience reactions that I know you deserve."

Jay says this in the demo, and it just made me laugh. I like the guy and his charming personality on camera, but this was such a blatant selling point. For that matter, many "magicians" don't deserve audience reactions - especially the ones that purchase 5 tricks from Penguin and Ellusionist and start butchering tricks for unsuspecting people.

Sorry if this post was a little harsh! It's been a long day.
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Too bad there isn't any mention of the months or years of practice needed.........
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On 2006-12-30 22:11, Tom G wrote:
Too bad there isn't any mention of the months or years of practice needed.........


I think you only need two hours now.
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The DVD looks great..... great for me to PoPoun .


It looks well produced and edited but for the actual magic content, teaching, and crediting.... I guess we will all see when it is released
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I learned a finger palm and classic palm from Now You See It, Now You Don't by Bill Tarr, and then everything else from Sankey's Revolutionary Coin Magic. It just took months of practice. There are so many sources already on the market for learning coin magic already. I could be wrong' perhaps this new dvd will be great! You never know.
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I have an old VHS from "Magic Max" that says by following the lessons, you can master magic in HOURS instead of DAYS! Too bad I never followed the lessons.
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I like the post production and editing. Nice lighting and camera angles.
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I may get it. Comes out on my birthday..how lucky for me
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I don't know, I think your better off going with the greats, I too had a Hard time Reading Coin Instructions, but Roth, the Dr. to only mention a few have some truely great DVDs out. I rather pay the extra to learn properly. Maybe after I review I might change my mind.
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Yes, Roth all the way... Smile ...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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I loved how Joe was talking about how coins were everyday objects or something to that effect and then started performing magic with Dollar / half dollar coins.
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My favourite bit was "most magicians don't do coin magic" who are these most magicians? I assume penguin faithfulls that have realised that even tricks with gimmick coins require a bit of hard work.

I'm sure the production will be great however I learnt the basics from a simon lovell video from repro magic that was shot from one shaky camcorder proving content is the most important thing. I imagine this dvd will teach nothing more than mediocracy. Which is not a bad standard for most penguin magic.
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Roth for me. He not only shows you palms and switches, he also teaches some really sweet routines. His patter needs a little work though, but when your that good, you really don't need to talk(joking). Jay's dvd may teach the coin sleights that one needs, but I feel that like any forum of magic, much practice is needed. I also feel that learning from dvd's is somewhat easier then say reading some of the explainations in BoBos. Oh well, to each his own.
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I can't wait for some reviews to come up, this really looks awesome
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Isn't pretty much all of this stuff on Michael Ammars basic coin dvd??
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What ever happened with building a solid foundation with books such as Bobo's and Coin Magic?

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On 2006-12-30 22:36, MagicChris wrote:
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On 2006-12-30 22:11, Tom G wrote:
Too bad there isn't any mention of the months or years of practice needed.........


I think you only need two hours now.


I can't stop laughing at that.
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The thing is people change. I've been thinking about it for a while and I think Penguin is clearly targeting a younger audience (yeah, I know.. I'm clever). So, they release a DVD with a VH1 feel, a techno soundtrack and flashy colors. So what? I bet Jay is a good teacher, he sure looks confident.
As for the content, it looks to be a solid foundation of coin work. I have the Bobo book and there is A LOT of material I will never use. Here for 30$ you have a dynamic DVD with moves that I'm sure you all do everyday for kids who don't the attention span to sit through a book.
It's not worse, it's simply different.

But.... yes they could be clearer about how much time it takes to do coin magic effectively (I'm not ready to perform this kind of magic myself)

(The good ol' days are over Smile)
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A lot of this stuff is on Ammar's DVD, but not all. And it's also on the Roth and other beginner DVDs.

Frankly, I don't think the Ammar is that great, so IMO the market is still wide open for a decent single-disk beginner coin DVD. We'll see if this one is it.
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"...for kids who don't the attention span to sit through a book."

HEY! I'm a fully grown adult and I don't have the attention span to sit through a book. Then again, I don't have the attention span to finish writing this po......ohhhh, look at that shiny ring......
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