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Danny Diamond
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On 2006-12-31 08:45, Paul Wingham wrote:
My favourite bit was "most magicians don't do coin magic" who are these most magicians? I assume penguin faithfulls


Yes, the quote is obviously directed towards their crop of magicians - the ones who for the most part, do not realize that magic exists outside the walls of Penguinville. So Jay is probably right - most PENGUIN magicians do not do coin magic. And that is mostly because Penguin doesn't really offer many coin Instant Downloads. Reading is for suckaz!
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Ill be purchasing it then reviewing it. I mean most the stuff on the demo was simple sleights I already new. BUt we all know all the penguin kids will be wanting to purchase this in beliefs that this is the best beginner coin resource because its being produced by penguin magic. Again Im not saying it looks terrible. Ill just have to wait then Ill review it for everyone to see.
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The "kids" will be downloading this about a week after it is first sold.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Jay seems to be a very good magician. Who knows, maybe this will be a solid project.
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I know some people might think it was terrible, but Born to Perform really got me on my feet, so I am expecting another quality product.
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Great. I'm going to be a pro coin magician after this, and don't you try and stop me. I deserve the reactions I'll get from my crazy french drop vanish.



Really.
Ah, I don't think it will be as bad as you all make it out to be. I mean, apart from the whole blatant lying about it taking you from beginner to pro ( what an amazing selling point. ) and saying that most magicians are intimidated because it's all sleight of hand ( Yes, because magicians just hate sleight of hand. ) then it should be a decent DVD....



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Why not sell the roth dvd's but call it david roths Xtreme coin magic. then it will be young and hip and at least have good material. although I look forward to learning the finger palm.... I didn;t even know jay did coin magic really... makes me feel like he went and learned some so they could release a dvd....
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On 2007-01-04 00:43, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I didn;t even know jay did coin magic really... makes me feel like he went and learned some so they could release a dvd....

He probably practiced his ass off for about a year in order to release this DVD.

Thanks, but no thanks! I'm sticking with my Roth, Ammar, Rubinstein, Cummins and Stone DVDs. Guys who are at the top of the food chain when it comes to coin magic.
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"Thanks, but no thanks! I'm sticking with my Roth, Ammar, Rubinstein, Cummins and Stone DVDs. Guys who are at the top of the food chain when it comes to coin magic."


Yup, I agree, stay with the GREATS. Jay is aiming his stuff at the Penguin Kids out there. There are lots of 'kids' I'm sure, so he should sell a truckload.
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On 2007-01-04 00:43, Joshua Barrett wrote:
Why not sell the roth dvd's but call it david roths Xtreme coin magic. then it will be young and hip and at least have good material. although I look forward to learning the finger palm.... I didn;t even know jay did coin magic really... makes me feel like he went and learned some so they could release a dvd....


I couldn't agree with this more. Nothing against Jay or his new DVD, all the more power to ya, but I began with Bobo and Bill Tarr learning simple sleights and moves. Neither one of those guys are particularly sexy, but they were a solid foundation for bigger things.

Later I moved on to Roth. I remember the first time I watched Roth's first Stars of Magic Tape in the late 80's and was absolutely blown away at the originality and depth of the material. That despite David's conservative coat and tie, and the 1920's piano music.

Slydini, Vernon, and other greats are often overlooked for the flashy newcomer in a shiney techno package filmed in sexy Las Vegas with drunken street walkers gasping in disbelief. Heck, today they even teach the great oldies using young "street" magician's, bar scenes, scanty clad women, and revved up hip hop music. Vernon is probably rolling over in his grave...god bless his soul.
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"Vernon is probably rolling over in his grave..."

Now THAT would make a heck of a magic DVD!
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As long as there's none of my intellectual property on the thing... not gonna comment.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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On 2007-01-11 14:42, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
As long as there's none of my intellectual property on the thing... not gonna comment.

isn't there a word for that...?
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On 2007-01-03 18:26, Zezenki wrote:
I know some people might think it was terrible, but Born to Perform really got me on my feet, so I am expecting another quality product.


Born to perform was Oz Pearlman who actually cut his teeth performing magic for real people prior to making demo videos and DVD's for Penguin... and I belive he had the good sense to walk away from them. Jay Noblezada is not Oz Pearlman... not even in the same category as far as I'm concerned.

I've read Bobo cover to cover at least 8 times and watched Roth's ECMME Volumes coutless times... I doubt nothing Jay/Penguin offers in this DVD is going to increase my skills.
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No comment on the dvd itself, since I haven't seen it...

But GaryW you couldn't be further from the truth. Jay "cut his teeth" way before Oz did. Jay was working restaurants, doing gigs, many years before Oz did. I know this for fact because I've seen him work restaurants in person back then. I don't blame him for joining Penguin years later.

Some of you would be shocked if you knew how short of a time Oz has been doing magic. Well, probably not... Smile
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Luke Jermay has also joined forces with the Penguin company, and is starting to release some material under their brand name, I see. He is another well-read and experienced performer in their ranks.
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Is there a coin bend on the DVD?
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Aren't most of you who are slating this before it's even released talking from the point of view of competant coin magicians whom the content of DVD's from the likes of Roth is perfect for. I have only been into magic for a year or so and I put most of my practice into card tricks and sleights as coins don't really do it for me. However I would like to start doing some work with coins in order to have another string to my bow but I'd prefer not to sit down and read bobo or learn from people with a dry style such as Roth. No offence to these guys but surely their stuff is for the purveyors of coin magic. as opposed to the beginner whom Jay's DVD seems perfect for.

And I think there is a coin bend on there, sure I saw it on the demo.
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Why does it matter if roth is "dry" unless of course your worried about not being able to completely mimic the routine word for word. I saw that hes teaching edge grip on the dvd.... the concealment that roth made popular again.... just seems to me, that I would rather learn from the real master
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On 2007-01-23 11:21, Magic Fingers wrote:...people with a dry style such as Roth. No offence to these guys but surely their stuff is for the purveyors of coin magic. as opposed to the beginner...


It is absurd to confuse a performer's presentational style with the educational nature of their material. If you feel that way about Roth, what will you do when it comes time to learn the Ramsay material? Not everyone who knows their stuff and does it beautifully is also an animated and engaging performer. Why settle for low quality flash when high quality education is still available from the folks who truly know what they are doing (and inventing). For that matter... how about just saving up and attending the NYCoinSymposium event and getting a real education live and in person?
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