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Good point, John.
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Hi thanks for the previous advice, as went out and bought the fiber optics by rishard sanders, almost mastere this. Watching finney what as most agree brilliant standup. There is one routine if possible can some one can reveal the name of this, its where he does the slip knot effectround his arms then says did you follow that, ok will start again, fantastic.
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I like the routine as well, but he doesn't credit one of my moves on the tutorial. He forgot he learned it from me in one of my lectures when he was young. He just says he saw the move somewhere,
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Brilliant rope routine - lady rope by mike finney, But its best done to an adult audience,
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On 2012-09-18 09:37, wally wrote:
Brilliant rope routine - lady rope by mike finney, But its best done to an adult audience,



Wally,

Why do you say that? I saw his performance this past weekend performed to an audience of all.
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I agree with wally. I do the Lady Rope Routine with my own bits and business but I have to say that the audience reaction and interaction is better with an adult audience. Even though you can have kids in the audience and they don't get the jokes.

If you want the audience to get more involved in it and get verbal feedback an reaction from them during the act, it's better to have only adults in the audience. Of course the audience assitant used must be a woman. If I do a kids only show I change my patter completely.

If kids are present during the show, people will try to retain themselfs to react.

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If you like the Panama Rope Routine, and I do, it is certainly very well eplained in Karl Fulves's book, but another good and inexpensive source is Professor Spellbinder. I think the instructions are quire clear and detailed. Magic Ian's "Dances With Ropes" is also extremely good.
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The cut and restore that I have done for over 30 years is kinda the Panama rope trick, but I finish with three pop knots instead of three square knots. I learned all my moves from two local magicians.
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Al the routine is on YouTube. I have seen it on TV and live. As I told Michael, him that routine inspired me to do Comedy Clubs.
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I have met Michael, and the rope routine is a killer. It's amazing how he only does 6 tricks, never changes, and is in demand more than anyone. I love to watch him.
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This again is the proof, that it's only the presentation that counts and not the effects. Michael is funny, entertaining and plays like the guy you like to hang out with for a while watching him do all kinds of things.

Let me tell a little story :

The other night a guy, doing magic did his "show" and the week after he watched mine. He told me the following : Guy, you're good, entertaining but you do few tricks and talk a lot, but you tell stories and it's fun to watch you. Me, he said, I do 20 more tricks and talk less. People that have seen both shows told me that they prefered my show to his, since they had a real feeling of being amused and entertained and didn't see a guy just presenting a lot of tricks for the sake of doing a lot more.

If the script is really well worked out and you have some engaging things to say and interesting statements to give and you're entertaining, it doesn't matter if you only present 6 effects. Look at Whit Haydn, he presents aswell only a few effects in his parlour show and is aswell a very entertaining and funny star in magic and being demanded by a lot of people.

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Check out a hilarious performance here (not sure how the lady felt afterwards, though):
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=32339
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I've seen Mike do this a number of times. It's FUNNY!!! (ALSO FVERY ENTERTAINING!!!!!)

He uses the ancient Edward Victor method (The late Doc Ervin of St. Louis also claimed it) Technically, IMO, it's a weak method, but Mike is so funny that the audience doesn't ""notice" the weak spot.

IMO, It's weak because, after focussing attention on the two ends, the magician must bring up the bight (it's NOT a LOOP!) and do the "flip switch" move at the point where he has focussed everyone's attention!

The late LEON MAGUIRE in "Hugard's Magic Monthly" (August 1945, page 140) addressed this awkward situation very well. Up to that point, I didn't do the Victor C/R because of the weak spot. (I hate to admit it, but I'm not as funny as Mike Finney!)

I have since adapted the MAGUIRES handling, to make it even more convincing. (I didn't invent anything!) I probably stumbled onto it. I have since seen another magician do it (Josh the Superfluous). He didn't get it from me!

I have added the "Convincer Count" (of the ends after rope is cut)which I "discovered" in an old "SPHINX", I think. I first put the "Convincer Count" in my lecture at Magic Inc. about 1995 +/-. IT GOT ME A STANDING OVATION in the middle of the lecture.

The late Jack Chanin and I had a session at the MAES convention in Norfolk in 1954, and he passed along a "delayed action" knot steal (and disposal) which really smooths up the finish.

With all that, which, I hope, does not thoroughly hi jack this thread! I still agree that Mike does a superlative job with the "LADY ROPE TRICK". (I do agree that it's better for an adult group.)
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Someone above mentioned the "PANAMA ROPE MYSTERY". It finishes with 3 "pop off knots". The "Panama" won for Corporal Ted Collins "...the prize cup and title of best rope effect of the entire convention..." (1942 IBM CONVENTION)

I first saw a short version of the principle in Senor Charlie Mardo's lecture in Norfolk, VA in the fall of 1951. None of "us" had ever seen it, and he "knocked our socks off"!!!

The basic principle has now been reprinted by several authors (without credit to Collins). It's a great principle, and totally impromptu! I wasn't fooled again by a C/R rope
until the late Harold ("three trick Taylor) Taylor did a C/R in his lecture at Magic Inc. in the early '70s.
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I don't know anyone who could pull this off other than Michael. Not only is he naturally funny as can be, but he's a very nice guy, and is truly a caring, giving individual.

(Short Michael Finney story)......I met Michael many years ago at one of the early Las Vegas Desert Seminars, and we had lunch and kibbutzed for a bit......

About 20 years ago, Michael was playing the Funny Bone Circuit and was here in Green Bay for a Mid-January show....we went to go see his show and sat in a table right up front....I wanted to say hi to Michael, but after his show he was swamped with well-wishers, etc....so, not wanting to "bug" him, we left......as I'm walking out to my car in the sub-zero Green Bay winter....I hear a yell behind me..."Hey Rick!"....looking back I see Michael running up to give me a hug.........what a guy!

Dick: Thanks for showing me the convincer count when you were over at the house last Saturday....I'm glad I went through the DeVoe rope bit with you and that you liked it........and also want to let you know that I've got Hen Fetch's QuadRopeLets coming......I'm looking forward to it!
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Michael is not a great magician. He is a superior entertainer. That's what counts!

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MichaelMann:

In my opinion, the best magicians ARE superior entertainers!
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