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Carlos Hampton
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A year or so ago I found in the net some instructions to make your own chop cup using a white ceramic coffee cup.

I cannot find this again to save my life.
Has anyone seen this???

Thanks for your help.
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While this can be done, I suspect that you will have to put a lot of effort and time in the project. A nice one is made by Thomas Wayne and is sold through the Denny and Lee Magic Shop. They will have a booth at the World Seminar in Las Vegas if you plan to attend.
Tom is a member of this forum, by the way.
The big question is: do you need to have the cup set up so you can show the interior? If not, you can just glue a magnet in place. If you need to flash the interior, you need to cover the magnet, either with an extra piece of material that appears to be the bottom of the cup, or with a casting resin colored white which will cover the magnet.
Hope that this helps.
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Carlos Hampton
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Thanks for your response Mr. Loomis. I was aware of Mr. Wayne´s version, I just happened to be the kind of person that enjoys building my own stuff.

I do believe the project I was talking about was in Allmagic, but they don't have an archive section. It described how to make a fake bottom to conceal the magnet as Mr. Loomis mentions using some stuff that you could find over the counter.

If anyone has this information it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Carlos
The idea Dennis had of using Casting resin will probably be the easiest you will come across. All you need is the magnet, cup and casting resin the right color. I don't think you could build a more easily concealed
"Completely Inspectable" gimmicked cup.
Dennis, where do you get your casting resin?
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Paul Gertner tells how to make a coffee chop cup in his book "Steel and Silver."
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Thanks Darrin,

I'll check it out.
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Carlos does like making his own stuff and he is very good at it. I've seen pictures of a table he made. The resin you can get at any craft store. I think the color match is what will take some time and trouble.
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Sorry for the delay, I haven't come back to this thread since I posted a month ago.
In California we have a chain of stores called Tap Plastic and casting resin is available there. In other parts of the country there must be similiar stores. Look for places that sell plexiglass and supplies for working with it.
The color match may be tricky. Perhaps white is the logical choice as it doesn't vary too much. And, it's a common color for coffee mugs.
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White mug, white RTV silicone sealer......need I say more? (you can peel it off if need be later!).
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Or consider using a styrofoam coffee cup with an external gimmick(in a TT or mounted on a ring, Omega Ring is one I've seen, there are others).

At the end of the routine the cup may be completely examined if anyone wants to.

If the gimmick was strong enough it *might* work through a plastic coffee mug. There are white plastic coffee mugs that look sort of like the standard "coffee shop" white ceramic mugs.
(I've seen them at Bed, Bath & Beyond and stores like that).
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The urethane- resin you need can be had from Smooth-On... and they sell it in several colors including white.. and the best part. some of it sets in about 5 min!!!!
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Hi!
Years ago I was playing around with coming up with a more natural item to use as a chop cup something that looked less like a prop, so I had purchased in a crafts store a cup that you could draw on and personalise, it came apart from the inside so you could line the inner wall with the personalised artwork, there was enough space on the bottom to glue a magnet in.
all that would have to be done after is to paint the interior and exterior the color desired.
Or if you can't find the above mentioned cup. I also came up with the idea of.if you have a ceramics shop in your area where people go in and take courses to learn ceramics, you could ask them to put a magnet into the base of one or more of the cups they make and sell, before they make paint and glaze them. These would make for more permanent use
Hope this helps.
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Here is a similar Café link from a couple of years ago:

vhttp://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=55733&forum=8

I don't know why something similar couldn't be done with a coffee cup, with the bottom painted with white epoxy.

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On 2006-03-28 13:54, joey wrote:

Or if you can't find the above mentioned cup. I also came up with the idea of.if you have a ceramics shop in your area where people go in and take courses to learn ceramics, you could ask them to put a magnet into the base of one or more of the cups they make and sell, before they make paint and glaze them. These would make for more permanent use
Hope this helps.
Joey


This will not work. The heat generated in the kiln will destroy the item inserted in the cup. Any such gaffing must be done after the piece is fired.

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On 2003-01-29 20:46, Darrin Cook wrote:
Paul Gertner tells how to make a coffee chop cup in his book "Steel and Silver."


When Paul lectured here some years ago, he did not have a coffee cup, but a short chop cup, that was once called the Master Chop Cup with a tin cup handle attached to the side.
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The mug I have had a hole drilled into the bottom and a strong you know what put in, it was very small and then who ever made it simply put a do not microwave sticker over the hole.
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If the intent is to use the chop cup routine with an everyday object like a coffee cup, then you might try Martin Lewis's idea. He uses a small Pringles can. The small ones are about 4" high. The best part is that the bottom is steel coated so the gimmicked ball will adhere to it.

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Here's an easy way to "chop" a Starbucks paper cup....

Grab a clean empty Starbucks cup AND a Cardboard Sleeve. Use needle-nose pliers to carefully insert 4 needles into adjacent corrogated channels in the cardboard sleeve. Shove them in til they're invisible. Use your gimmicked chop ball or borrow a dollar bill, switch in a gimmicked bill and do your best chop cup routine! How about finding a well made plastic doughnut for the final load! Try gimmicking a cardboard sleeve using needles.... it works great, packs flat!
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I like the Starbucks cup idea. Especially since it addresses the original posters question on coffee cups.

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Any tips on how strong a magnet to use? I have a coffee chop cup (purchased from Thomas Wayne) but I want to make my own chop cup tea cup, so it's smaller than my coffee cup.

Thanks,
Joshua Lozoff

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