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Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
Hi guys!
I've turned an effect by Ted Lesley called "The Performer's Card Stab" into a completely impromptu card stab of my own. Now I know some of you would find out the method I use but please, DON'T EXPOSE IT on this forum. Buy the way, let me tell you first that I do not use a crimp in a card because I know at some point in my video it looks like so. It was just an accident when I assemble the pack. Anyway, I just want to know if you ever saw someone in a DVD/Videotape or read in a book/magazine about the method I'm using or the way I'm doing the effect. Surely I'm not the first to think about that one? Please let me know were you saw that method before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWU8c68M4aI If the link doesn't work, just type Danik's Card Stab in the search box. Thanks! Danik |
Steve Hook Inner circle Raleigh, NC, USA 1266 Posts |
Well done, Danik!
Like Bonnie Raitt said, "I miss Little Feat more than I miss being 8 years old." Thanks for the concerts + recordings, Lowell, Richie, and Paul!
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APC Inner circle Los Angeles 1213 Posts |
I like it and wouldnt mind learning it ! I only really know one card stab so I am not able to say if its been done before, sorry. But good luck with this!
Adam |
Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
I'd like some more feedback, please guys!
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Jim Poor Special user Fairfax, VA 676 Posts |
Very nice. I have seen write ups on the method I _think_ you are using. I'm not sure exactly where though. I'll PM you with my thought.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I would ELIMINATE the talk up front about Marked Cards. No need to. Also the multiple cut you use before she cuts the cards isn't very gracefull and looks a tad phoney. Nicely done otherwise.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Roland78 Special user Torino, Italy 567 Posts |
I think he talked about marked cards only for the fellow magicians, to eliminate some thoughts about the method.
I would eliminate it me too performing for a lay audience, because it would tell them that marked cards actually exist, and perhaps many of them wasn't aware of this Anyway, nice trick, I liked it very much. But you can perform card stabs only on your own tables; I think that no restaurants owner or friend would be happy if you open a new hole in their wood tables everytime you need to locate a signed card Dave |
Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
Thanks guys! Yes, I only said that the cards weren't marked because the clip was intended to be shown to magicians on Magic Video Depot and on the Magic café.
As for the knife problem, believe me cause I've tried it before, it doesn't stab thru the table IF and only IF, your using a good quality mat over the table and you do NOT stab the card with all your might. The one I had in the video, well, it's the one I use in real life performances and the knife never went thru any table. Don't be afraid to perform the effect anywere. Thanks again guys! But I would REALLY like to know if someone ever seen my handling in a book or on a DVD/Video. Don't tell me I invented the effect the way I perform it? HURRAAAYYY! |
Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
So, anyone ever seen that one in a book or DVD/Video???
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Danik the godffather congradulates you
excellent work vinny |
Orvec New user 64 Posts |
Looks good, mate. As far as I know, I've never seen that anywhere - but then, I've been more on the mentalism side of things for the past several years.
R. |
magico Special user Connecticut 862 Posts |
The moving pencil in Close-up Card Magic by Harry Lorayne.
The effect is some one signs the back of a card without looking at the face, the card is then lost back in the pack, the cards are then spread out face up. The pencil is moved along the spread of cards and the point of the pencil is drop down onto one card and it is turned over to show it is the signed card. Daryl also performs this on his Card Revelation DVD Vol 1. |
Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Amazing to me that only Magico reads the good stuff! I originally released The Moving Pencil in 1962, before Danik 1 was born, I think. It's in the Close-Up Card Magic section of LORAYNE: THE CLASSIC COLLECTION. I think people have to be in magic a while before they think they've come up with something new. But I understand it. I felt that way 60 years ago! Best - HARRY LORAYNE. PS: Unless I saw the wrong thing, I didn't like the obvious peek for the key card.there are so many better ways.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Harry I do not think DANIK CLAIMED ANY THING HE ONLY WANTED FEED BACK,
I congradulated him for putting up a demo for all to see......reading about magic does not make one a good magician... also I consider you one of the finest teachers of magic today I would pm Danik and teach him a better peek to help him the godfather |
Devilix Veteran user 372 Posts |
I think that the Godfather is 100%.
From my point of view, I didn't see anything wrong about the peek. However, I must say that I am far from having the same experience that MR Lorayne got. Danik did a good job and it would be great to provide him with a better peek... Devilix |
Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Vinnie: His opening post said "...of my own." I think that's claiming something. Also, the problem here is the use of the word "peek." It shouldn't be a "peek." There's no "move" necessary here. For goodness sake, glimpse the bottom card while the spec. is shuffling, or glimpse it (it's NOT a "move") as you do one shuffle, then do a slip shuffle or two leaving it at bottom and table the deck. Then just a bit of Time Misdirection. Do a bit of patter - then go into the effect without picking up the deck. I've written it so many times - do not do the "dirty work" at the moment that "work" is going to be used. Sometimes, obviously, that can't be helped, but certainly here it can be. Best - HARRY LORAYNE.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
HARRY first of all danik mentions ted lesley and he turns it into what he believes is his own.. even if it is not, and I know it is not danik's, he asks for help,..
You can't expect eveyone to read every thing written on magic can you ... we have all cpome with ideas that was created years before we even did it.. that the nature of the art,,, only ome of usw wrote it down and others did not...... Harry you and I have been in magic for a very long time I have learned much from you but on the other hand you have learned nothing from me this is because you write and I do not...... I think this forum is about helping one another not about stealing from one another.. yes ther are a few of them out there but so what .... the godfather knowas what you have meant to the magic communityanmd it is priceless. so please give danik a break ....... vinny |
Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
Thanks Vinny! You understood completely what I meant. You’re a classy man. I always enjoy your videos.
I really did see Ted Lesley perform his card stab and thought on how I could do that little miracle impromptu. I came out with the version that you all saw in my video. That's why I said my "own version" only because I really came out with that without reading it or seeing it anywhere. I surely didn't want to take the credit for it without knowing if someone "invented" that method before. That's why I posted my video and my request. I didn't read everything there is to read on magic, especially books that were written before I was born like mister Lorayne said. Mister Lorayne, you seemed to take it somewhat personal and I don't understand why? All I wanted when I posted that video was to make sure I wasn't taking the credit for somebody else. I couldn’t believe no one ever thought of that one before. So thank you for pointed out to me where I could find the effect. On the other hand, I know we're all magicians here on this site, but it took two weeks for someone to tell me if the effect was invented by someone else. Only 1 person knew. The thing I don't really like is the fact that you somehow exposed the method I use for the effect claiming you know "better" methods. I know there are better methods. Hell, I could force a card on the spectator and perform the same effect but that's not what I wanted. I wanted it to be a simple, no sleight of hand, no forcing, no cutting after the spectator touched the cards, etc. I wanted it to be simple yet effective. Now, I hope that clears everything about my card stab video. It's just too bad that Mr Lorayne saw the part of my initial post that said "my own" BUT didn't see the part in my initial post where I said "PLEASE DON'T EXPOSE" the method even if you know it!!! Once again, thank you Vinny for your comprehension. Real classy man! Danik |
Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
I'm sorry, Danik. You're right - I overlooked your asking not to expose the method. It's just that watching the video exposed the method to me - I guess that's because I knew what was coming. Forgive me again, but to me, the way you did it WAS exposing. So again, forgive me, I honestly didn't think I was exposing anything - I'm as much against exposing as you are, probably much more so. Perhaps you can, should, look at it all as a learning experience. Possibly my first post above may help you make the effect a bit stronger. Best - HARRY LORAYNE.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
Danik1 Regular user Saint-Eustache, Canada 184 Posts |
Yes Mr Lorayne, I know the way I did the effect might have been exposing to you, but your no laymen (HA!HA!HA!). Your one of the greats!
I'll look into what you recommanded me and I'll try to improve the effect if I can. But to tell you the truth, I'm no professional and the audience I perform for always love the effect the way I perform it. I might change a thing or two if I perform this effect for magicians. But anyway, I'm always looking for improvement so thanks for your comments. Now I know I took your idea with the pencil. I'm glad I know because from now on, I'll give you credit for the basic idea. I'll also try to find Close-up Card Magic and see if I can get other gems like the moving pencil! Thanks! Danik |
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