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MANDRAGORE
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I have seen Derren Brown's video,
(the devil's picture book) and I tried his mental forces for cards. I have to say that they are absolutely brilliant and they really blow people away.

Any other suggestion for mental force?

ben
Rob Wallis
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I would highly recommend Banachek's "Psychological Subtleties". It is chock-full of psychological forces, among other things.
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Yep, Banacek's book is all you need. It's a very worthwhile compilation of ALL the psychoforces worth knowing.
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...and then some!
brainman
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Non verbal forces often rule our life...just watch out for them...and use them !
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Sure, mental forces are great… “Think of a card colour, red or black, visualise it and make it as bright and as vivid as you can…” Of course, the chances are they are going to think of red (it’s a bit difficult to imagine “black” bright and vivid, isn’t it?

Unfortunately, the inherent problem with psychological forces as that they can, and do, go wrong. The real beauty in Banachek’s book is that there are loads of suggested “outs” so that even when you lose, you still win. Perhaps somebody could start a topic on “outs”?
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I mentioned before that Howie Marmer has some lecture notes on a mental force.

You can contact him via http://www.howiethegreat.com

Tell him I sent you! Smile
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MANDRAGORE
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i know the psychological subtleties, but iam sure that we can use words in order to direct the mind (unconsciously) towards words or actions desired by the mentalist.

thank you for your ideas

ben
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Am I the only person who finds Psychological Subtleties greatly overrated.Is there anyone in the developed world who doesnt know the 37 routine etc.
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Hello

Psychological subleties is an excellent book.

I however noticed big differences between the rates of success of various psychological forcing. Forcing concerning colours, figures, geometrical forms and the small drawings work very well. As regards vegetables it works less well . But maybe that it depends on the culture and the culinary customs of the region where you are!

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I have just read small remark concerning the fact that these forcing are not secure in 100 %.

Here is small very simple craftiness that I use. I like using forcing of geometrical figure and of small drawings. If I do not suceed "to guess" what the person has drawn I say simply : " Well, you see nobody can know the drawing on which YOU decided to make. This drawing is unique because it depends on your personality. There is no two of it identical over the world. So, it is not exchangeable with an other one. It is as your signature but better because it was unpredictable even for someone knowing you. This paper is so identified by you ". And I perform any other effect using this identified paper (naturally it is necessary that this identification plau a role in the routine).

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Karl
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On 2002-04-30 11:03, Martin Pulman wrote:
Am I the only person who finds Psychological Subtleties greatly overrated.Is there anyone in the developed world who doesnt know the 37 routine etc.


Of course, the basic "37" routine is somewhat common knowledge (at least among those who know magic). What Banachek has done has made in some cases improvements on the basic routines or created outs for them. He has indicated to me in the past that PS is a book not of effects, but ideas, that you should use to enhance your own creativity.
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If missing the force is a concern, then you either haven't read the aforementioned book, in which case you should read it, or you haven't read it fully, in which case you should re-read it. Do yourself a favor, you won't regret it :o)
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