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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Jerome Finley here with some questions for you walking encyclopedia's out there.
If this post needs to be moved, please let me know. I'm trying to locate the origin of "Cloud Melting" in the magic/mentalism and bizarre communities. I have a demonstration which I have used for years, and I want to make certain that the methods have not seen print before. I remember someone saying that Brother Shadow used this at times. I know that working with clouds is not new or unique to me, but I want the history. All help appreciated. Thanks! J.
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btaxin Regular user san francisco 152 Posts |
If memory serves, I recall Docc Hilford talking about that in one of his videos. I'm not sure which one.
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3362 Posts |
I believe cloud busting appears in the wonder words set by Kenton Knepper
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Cloud busting(bursting) goes back a long, long time (possibly over 500 years). Docc Hilford does discuss it, as does Kenton on the Wonder Words set.
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Thanks guys. I do not remember it from Wonder Words, best dig it out!
It seems like something Docc would do. I appreciate the help. Kind regards, Jerome.
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Robin DeWitt Regular user 187 Posts |
It goes back further than Mssrs. Hilford or Knepper. It was in an Al Mann monograph. I can't think which one. Alberstat would probably know.
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Jim Magus Loyal user 246 Posts |
Mind Cloud by Al Mann is in The Compleat Magick, Volume I, page # 337.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Thanks Jim.
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Meng Regular user Somewhere in Germany I wrote 128 Posts |
Information about cloud busting can also be found in Al Mann’s Ultra Exclusive 3 (the TKares Set, Page 7).
Bert Reese was arrested for `Cloud Removal´ in 1915. |
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
You can also read about it in docc shiels work as well as the new invocation...
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Jerome Finley V.I.P. SLC 3419 Posts |
Excellent. Thank you all for your very helpful information.
I learned what I know and use from Gary St. Claire's (now Sinclaire) partner, Majna, who studied with Uri. I also drew inspiration from "Illusions" by Richard Bach. It's good to know there are some other sources out there. Thanks again. Gone hunting, -J.
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Andini Special user Columbus, OH 685 Posts |
May I ask what cloud busting is?
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Meng Regular user Somewhere in Germany I wrote 128 Posts |
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On 2007-01-18 10:09, Andini wrote: Cloud busting is to make a cloud vanish by your psychic power. |
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johne Special user 960 Posts |
I have several methods for this...
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
My grandfather told me about a man at the county fair in 1920 who did this.
It made a very strong impression on him because he told me about it almost 45 years later. It is now over 40 years since he told me, and I still remember the look in his eyes when he talked about it. Tony |
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johne Special user 960 Posts |
I had a physical science teacer tell me about this...it impacted me about the same way. I'm not sure why the subject came up, but I remember being told and that was 20 some years ago. I have demonstrated this power to my children. They don't have the patience for Cumulus nimbus :O)
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fishwasher Inner circle B'ham uk 1231 Posts |
Does anybody know exactly which Docc Hilford video discusses cloud bursting and/or where Docc sheils discusses it?
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gabelson Inner circle conscientious observer 2137 Posts |
I believe it's on the second volume of Wonder Words that Kenton discusses it, and references Hilford's take, as well. It's a nice little summary of how to perform the effect, along with some subtle verbal persuasions.
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Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4207 Posts |
Also for history fun research Wilhelm Reich and his adventures with "Orgone energy".
Cloud Busting with various sized aluminum pipes and a cool revolving platform. |
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Did not Kenton explain more the effect of "Cloud MOving" rather than "Cloud Busting"? Or, perhaps he spoke about "Cloud Joining"... or perhaps "all three"???
In any case, I have tried Cloud moving/joining, as per Kenton's instructions, and I can honestly say that it "does" work... at least in my mind --and that's a start!
Jonathan
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