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I'm looking for a good way to vanish a 7' length of rope preferably without any boxes etc. So far about all I have come up with is to wind it into a ball and either topit it or use a p**l.
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The problem with any vanish is that immediately after it happens, the audience begins searching for the missing object, mentally and physically.

If you can possibly transform the object into something else, usually similar in shape and/or color, their attention becomes focused on the new object first, as they seek to figure out where WITHIN the new object the old object is hidden, THEN they go looking for the old object, which by then should be long gone and far away.

If you can first place the object you want to vanish inside some sort of container or holder, the attention focuses first on the container as you tear it apart to show that the object is gone. They try to see where in the container it might be hidden, and THEN look elsewhere for it, but by then it should also be long gone and far away.

If you are intent on simply vanishing the object, it should be an instantaneous vanish. One second it is there, and the next it is not- no cover, no transformation and no clue as to where it has gone. It is the most magical of the vanishes, but also the most difficult to achieve since the object has to be capable of moving from HERE to NOT HERE in one sixtieth of a second, if not faster. This can be done with silks, feather flowers, and small objects but the task gets more difficult as the object gets larger.

Alternates to this instantaneously CAMOUFLAGE or CONCEAL the larger object, which then moves off the scene at a more leisurely rate. We see this in Black Art vanishes, but there are other examples as well.

So you have some decisions to make in order to accomplish your goal of vanishing a seven foot rope; transform the rope to something else, vanish the rope in a container, or instantaneously camouflage or conceal the rope.
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You have asked a one sentence question, and it is impossible to give a complete answer to half of a question. What is this trick all about?
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On 2007-01-21 08:08, Flying Magus wrote:
So far about all I have come up with is to wind it into a ball and either topit it or use a p**l.


Is there anything 'wrong' with either of those methods? Why not employ one of them?
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On 2007-01-21 14:50, Al Angello wrote:
Flying Mangus
You have asked a one sentence question, and it is impossible to give a complete answer to half of a question. What is this trick all about?
Al Angello


Actually there were two sentences Smile

I didn't want to give too much away because I didn't want to limit thinking. However, the vanish is intended to be at the close of a silent manipulation piece. After a ball turns into a rope, the rope is manipulated (think Tabary) and finally completely vanishes.

I'll be wearing a powder blue tux with a ruffled shirt. No, hang on, just an ordinary suit style jacket - and maybe some pants.

Hope that helps.
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A simple transformation would be to roll up the rope, topit, and show that it has changed into a handkerchief, which you then tuck into your breast pocket before you take your bow.

For a complete vanish, since you are unlikely to achieve instantaneousness (?) with a seven foot wad of rope, use a large flash to cover the time between.
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Roll it up and it changes to a rubber ball which you can bounce.
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You might also consider a SHRINKING rope, the reverse of Christopher's stretching a rope. You could suck it up and swallow ala spaghetti (not going into your mouth, but it looks like it does, as you are holding it in your hand near the mouth) PULL.
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The problem I have with topiting the wad of rope is the jacket I will be wearing.

I have two jackets with topits (two each). One is just a straight suit jacket, the other is a royal blue mandarin collar jacket. As such the front of the jacket is much less open than a regular jacket. This works fine for topiting small items, which is normally all I use. However with a ball nearly 3" in diameter I have trouble. Obviously this is the jacket I wish to wear in the act.

I can topit the ball, but with what I consider to be far too much movement. I will keep exploring that though. I do have a drop cloth that is used elsewhere in the act that could be used as a Devil's Hank to vanish the rope. I'm still open to all suggestions. Nothing is fixed at this stage.
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As Spellbinder suggested, vanish it in stages. Just as you may have seen with vanishing large silks, dump the bulk while still showing just a short piece. Then you could use a TT to take care of the rest.
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Make a sleeve for it the same color as your suit?

Do the opposite of a bottle production from silks?
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