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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
It occurred to me you might like to hear of my take on the famous PB&J. Finding the plot a little dull, and wanting plastic tubs not glass jars of jam, I developed on a routine I call "Peanut Snot".
Last year I had a call from a customer, who while making a booking, said her son had seen me at a friend's birthday party. "Did you do a trick with a sandwich? Er....I think it might have been a SNOT sandwich?" Ah yes, I replied, "In fact, it's a peanut and snot sandwich.....". "That's it", replied the mother, "He's been going on and on about it ever since. When you come to my son's party, can you do that one?" It's not crude, honest......how deep is this hole I'm digging? Perhaps I'll find treasure somewhere down here? :) |
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kimmo Inner circle Sheffield 1193 Posts |
No matter what we do, there is always the risk that someone will find it offensive. You cannot appeal to everyone and if you try to you are almost guaranteed to fail. One of the things we have to come to terms with as performers is that not everyone is going to like our show. Doug correctly pointed out that some people are offended by the use of live animals. These people will not book me because I use one. They are not my audience. There are others who can't stand the 'violence' in Punch and Judy and they won't book Tony. I perform the kind of stuff that I like and I know how to sell it to a crowd. I'd like to see Doug's act because I bet the snot jar thing KILLS. I couldn't do it, but it probably fits the 'Potty the Pirate' character perfectly. There's certainly a lot of stuff in my show that no one else would dream of doing! There will always be performers who are pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable and that is a good thing. Public sensibilities change as well - look at how people used to laugh at 'family' comedy shows like 'Mind Your Language' and 'Love Thy Neighbour' and then thirty years later Jade Goody calls someone 'popadom' and it sparks an international incident! Ben Elton is now part of the establishment and people are offended by Benny Hill. The Life of Brian is now accepted as a comedy masterpiece.(Sorry if some of these references mean nothing to Americans)
If you continue to get repeat bookings and recommendations, you are obviously getting it right. That's my 'lower class' view. Now excuse me while I go and revel in my bodily functions.
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Tony James Inner circle Cheshire UK 1398 Posts |
My dear, poor ex-colonial brethren.
Smile sweetly and ignore poor potty Potty and poor potty Kimmo. They were both once good children's entertainers. As part of their recovery programme the hospital psychiatrist is allowing them to write to you here at the Magic Café. Their ramblings are then analysed as part of their journey along the long road to full recovery. I confidently expect they will both be realised in 2056.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
The bit the kids like best about the Jar of Snot is when I take it out to show them how slimy it is. I was lucky enough to find two different types of "slime" that reacted together to form a particularly disgusting looking greyish-green lumpy slime. It's all icky and runny, and I run around the kids with it in my hand thrusting it under their noses. It's true that parents sometimes look at me a bit funny when I do this bit, but once they see that it's all done with total innocence, they break into a laugh along with the kids. I keep saying "innocence", because for me, that's the key to making this kind of material acceptable, and not in the least bit crude!
Oh, it's nearly dinner time. I get my leg shackles removed for dinner. Hurrah! Before I go, I have a quick poem for owners of "The Outhouse" who may enjoy Potty Humour: There once was a man from Blackheath On the toilet he left his false teeth, He went to the loo But before he could poo He had bitten himself underneath! Oooh! That doesn't work for our friends across the Big Pond. How about this: There once was a man from Blackheath On the toilet he left his false teeth, He had to go doo doo But before he could poo poo He had bitten himself underneath! How does that sound? Does that make you cringe, cry, or c**p yourself laughing? Doug ;) |
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
Smarty, was that meant to be "discussing stuff" or "disgusting stuff"? Just wondered.....
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Bill Scarlett Veteran user Vermont 366 Posts |
That is really quite disgusting Potty. Do you really think that parents want a grown man making lots of jokes about bodily functions to their little ones. You can't possibly be serious. You have mothers requesting, no, demanding that you do a routine about "snot sandwiches"?? That is unbelievable.
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
To be fair, Bill, I don't make LOTS of jokes about bodily functions, I mean, that isn't a significant part of my persona, except inasmuch as it it very memorable for certain kids (most of them by my judgement).
My Peanut Snot story is quite true, do you come from a part of the World where kids don't eat snot, or is it just impolite to mention the habit? |
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Bill Scarlett Veteran user Vermont 366 Posts |
Ok, fair enough, if it puts food on your table then it must work.
To answer your question, I consider it impolite to mention the habit. Kid's do a lot of gross things, but I don't bring them up in my show. Just a cultural difference I guess. One question Potty, over here potty means toilet. That may be where I am deducing your style of humor. Does it mean the same thing in England? |
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kimmo Inner circle Sheffield 1193 Posts |
At the risk of Tony getting one of his footmen to set the hounds on me, I'd like to chip in again. Doug's snot routine sounds pretty gross to me as well and I would be as uncomfortable as hell if I tried to do anything like that. I'd have no idea how to make it work. However, I don't think it's mine (or anyone else's) place to tell him that he shouldn't do it - particularly if I haven't seen it for myself first! I can't do a lot of the standard kids show gags beloved of countless thousands of entertainers because they make me cringe! Does that mean no one else should be allowed to use them?
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Smarty Pants Loyal user 261 Posts |
I think it was Silly Billy who started all this snot stuff wasn't it?
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kimmo Inner circle Sheffield 1193 Posts |
Mr. Pants - I'm not familiar with Silly Billy although I see his name mentioned on here a lot. I was told that he lectured at Blackpool and went down very badly - is this true?
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Smarty Pants Loyal user 261 Posts |
Kimmo. You can call me Smarty. His real name is David Kaye. He lives in NYC.
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Bill Scarlett Veteran user Vermont 366 Posts |
I never said he can't do the snot sandwich routine. He can do it.
If he tried to do it at my daughters birthday, I'd show him the door promptly. |
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Smarty Pants Loyal user 261 Posts |
I don't know, Kimmo, if he lectured at Blackpool. Is he not famous in your country?
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
Smarty - Silly Billy is the author of Seriously Silly which has suggestions such as asking the children 'who farted' and putting a nappy/diaper on a child's head. He is very famous because he charges $500 for a kid's party and is booked so solid he has a team of underlings to fill his bookings.
He also has a character called Dr Blood who has fire, choppers, fake blood and other GROSS stuff! I have heard his lecture flopped in Blackpool but I was not there. It's a pity this thread has been reduced to name-calling and insults! Particularly since the original thread was so polite by comparisons. There seems to be three schools of thought at plays 1) Potty humour is crude and should NEVER be performed. 2) Potty humour should only be performed when thought through and performed for the right audience in the right market. 3) Hoorah for poo! Free poo for everyone! Let's move on from this point and ask the question:- WHY is potty humour offensive to some? Violence could encourage kids to copy. Sex is an adult domain and not for kids. Racism is unacceptable across most society But what creates the offense from potty humour? |
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Potty the Pirate Inner circle 4632 Posts |
Hehe, Bill, I bet if you saw my "Peanut Snot" routine your opinion would change. Really, it's the most harmless fun, it might look awful in print, but as I said, it's played innocently, I don't EVER get complaints about my style of humour. Although "potty" also means "toilet" over here in the UK (generally folks think of a plastic kid's potty), it also means "silly" or "daft". (There was a kids' TV show many years ago called "Michael Bentine's Potty Time", which also used the word). But this doesn't mean my show is crammed with toilet humour, not at all. Most folks wouldn't even notice it. I'm sure when I do my "peanut snot" routine, the adults present hardly even think about the fact it might be crude. This is because of the reactions of the kids, who scream and make all kinds of noises which tells everyone around that this is great fun!
Reading this thread, you might be forgiven for thinking that my show is full of crudity. It isn't, but I do get a whole range of reactions and emotions from the kids. Perhaps I'm very lucky that I can use this kind of material without worrying. I have my own ideas of what crosses the line, and believe me, plenty of "straight" magicians cross lines that I never would. One obvious example from my point of view is live animals, as I stated above. I think using a live animal would harm my show far more than a snot sandwich ever could! Again, it's all a question of what you're COMFORTABLE with. That comes across to an audience, and is why we're all different. Doug. |
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kimmo Inner circle Sheffield 1193 Posts |
I'd love to see your show Doug! I don't understand why people would pass judgement on a routine that they have never seen.
Tony seems to believe Doug and I belong in the nuthouse, but he regularly performs a puppet show featuring a deformed, child-murdering, wife-beating psychopath who commits appalling acts of violence and cruelty upon all those around him and escapes scot-free. I think that's a fair description of a Punch and Judy show - sounds pretty offensive in print, don't you think? There are lots of people who would object to booking something like that, but I bet they'd change their opinion if they saw Tony's show. In the right hands, Punch and Judy is hilarious - and all the more so because of its outrageous content. It's all about context and presentation.
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David Kaye V.I.P. New York City 131 Posts |
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On 2007-01-24 17:05, Smarty Pants wrote: Sorry Im a little late on this but... Yes, this is true. Before I came along school children throughout the world never made fart jokes for each other. David Kaye Silly Billy
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Smarty Pants Loyal user 261 Posts |
Yes they did. So did some magicians. That does not mean it was healthy. You brought it to the notice of other magicians via your book. That was your choice.
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kimmo Inner circle Sheffield 1193 Posts |
David - If Mr. Pants disapproves of your book, that makes me want to run right out and buy it! Mind you, the fact that he is passing judgement on it does not necessarily mean he's read it! Is it true that your lecture was not well received in Blackpool? If so, do you think that was down to cultural differences between the US abd the UK?
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