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apendola
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Hey everyone,
I just got carneycopia a couple weeks ago and I must say I'm having difficulty learning from text rather than video. Does anyone have any general tips on interpereting magic books?

Thanks
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That is a fantastic post from RJ and some excellent advice. Well worth reading.

Thanks, Bob, for the redirect link.

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I don't know how long you've been into magic, but when I started out not very long ago I found that I also had difficulty learning from books. But now that I know the terms, phrases and names of most sleights / techniques (that are relevant for me), I find that learning from books is much easier than it used to be.
So my advice is that you stick to DVDs for a while and revert to books when you feel comfortable.

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Books are (I think) the best way to learn. You don't become one of those "dime a dozen" magicians you see at magic club meetings who perform the effect with the same patter as taught on the video. Learning from a book makes you make the trick your own. Just work through it slowly and you'll feel better about it in the end. I learned Reformation from Guy Hollingworth's book and felt like a million bucks afterward.
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Learning from books is certainly not as easy as watching a good produced DVD - but it is more rewarding. I can just second Josh on this one . . .

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DVD's and book do help us learn. Some choose books. Some choose DVDs. Some choose both. There is no right or wrong answer. It all depends on the individual. Stick with whatever way that makes you feel more comfortable as you are learning.
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Dynamike knows what he is talking about. Books are Not Always the best way to learn magic. Any good teacher can tell you that people do not always learn best from text, demonstration, or video.

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On 2007-01-26 10:02, Wellington wrote:
Dynamike knows what he is talking about. Books are Not Always the best way to learn magic. Any good teacher can tell you that people do not always learn best from text, demonstration, or video.

Bob

I second this opinion. The best way for me is a combination of books, video, and direct contact with other Magicians.
Books are a indispensable resource for me. I refer to them constantly. That being said, I find it extremely useful to be able to see a video of a move or routine, to nail down some fine point of procedure or timing.
I also find that learning from another magician, whether it's seeing a lecture, or just showing each other ideas in a Magic Shop, is a tremendous source.
Naturally you should tailor your learning program to suit what works best for you. I personally need all three.
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If you want to learn "Tricks" or "Effects" stick to the DVD's. If you want to learn MAGIC, then you have to study the books. If you want to Master the art, then use both...DVD for performance and timing examples, text books for the history and modus operandi...and so much more.
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On 2007-01-26 12:27, Sleightly_Dangerous wrote:
If you want to learn "Tricks" or "Effects" stick to the DVD's. If you want to learn MAGIC, then you have to study the books. If you want to Master the art, then use both...DVD for performance and timing examples, text books for the history and modus operandi...and so much more.


Just remember the DVD for EXAMPLES (capitalization is mine)... don't copy the presentation, but learn from it and make it your own.
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Great if you can take routine you learned from a DVD and make it yours. This requires substantial experience.
It is way too easy to just mimic the whole presentation on DVD - hence the book advantage . . .
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I always felt that learning from book goes this route: printed word to eyes to brain to hands.

Learning from DVD or video goes like this: TV screen to hands.

When learning from DVD or video, you bypass the brain.
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The brain is still engaged, however the creative part - the left part - is not fully active.
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When you learn magic from books the imagination has to kick in. You have to visualize yourself performing the trick and develop it to fit your style. Comprehension is acquired by slowly reading each step and fully understanding and absorbing it before going on to the next step. On the other hand, watching a DVD for example, one cannot help but copy the performer. This is inevitable because you usually don't notice youself doing it, but you do. So, IMHO books are superior. Becoming a member of an organization (IBM/SAM) will help tremendously because in every ring there are always members with skill levels above you and below you, so you can fit in no matter where your skill level lies.
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Learn the moves from dvd's. Learn routines from books. I NEVER could have learned the vernon wand spin from a book. Seeing it performed made it MUCH easier.
I've passed over numerous effects because I didn't think the move would fool Stevie Wonder. Later SEEING an effect it blew my socks off.
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I'm a book-lover, but a DVD like Reed McCormick's "Classic Palming With Coins" serves to bring out some points that cannot be conveyed with words or pictures. One of the paradoxes of palming is that you have to make everything look as natural as possible while the nature of what you're doing makes it impossible to be 100% natural. Watching Reed's hands as he went about his presentation was valuable. I get to see his hands in constant use over the course of an hour of footage
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Hi there,

I started out using books, and they should be the basis for your study!

However, if there is something in particular that you either don't understand or want to research more, then DVDs can show you real life, real-time performances!

I am a lover of both, but I do own more books which makes me a little biased I suppose.

Many thanks

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My first "Magic Book" was "Stars of Magic". I was soooo frustrated, I almost gave it up...But NOW, I refer back to it all the time. Keep those books and one day you will see the fog has lifted...
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On 2007-02-07 12:33, mark1991 wrote:

However, if there is something in particular that you either don't understand or want to research more, then DVDs can show you real life, real-time performances!

Magical Mark Watson
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I agree, I think books are wonderful and I will always start there, but I also see the value in seeing how its performed in real life. Just the other day I was watching a DVD and picked up a little something that I completely missed from the book I was reading and it made all the difference in the world.

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